Thread: Josh Allen.....vs Elway

Originally Posted by Von Kinger

You're here to be mean to me!

You want me to cuddle you, or you gonna man up? Quit feeling sorry for yourself.

Originally Posted by elsid13

Think Cutler without being a dick.

So he's a turnover machine in tough situations?

Originally Posted by Nomad

You want me to cuddle you, or you gonna man up? Quit feeling sorry for yourself.

Oh, I'm sorry. I thought I deserved the same treatment that you give to TS.

Originally Posted by elsid13

Think Cutler without being a dick.

Does not compute

Originally Posted by slim

Does not compute

Amazing arm, sneaky athletic, trust his arm to make great plays vs taking a check down, throws off his back more then he should.

Originally Posted by elsid13

Amazing arm, sneaky athletic, trust his arm to make great plays vs taking a check down, throws off his back more then he should.

And is still trying to figure out how he can force more passes to Brandon Marshall.

Originally Posted by Jaded

Elway was the worst at swing passes out of the backfield that I’ve ever seen.

Elway lined up under guard once during his rookie year. Didn't make him a failure. The question is Allen's accuracy. I'd put him in one of those made-for-tv contests where the mechanical receivers run around with little bulls-eyes next to their outstretched cardboard hands. How often can he hit the bulls-eye? If the answer is one or none, he'll be the next Ryan Mallett. Also, can Allen read defenses? I think those will become more important than whether he can hit the 60-yard up and out.

Originally Posted by turftoad

We will not be taking a QB at #5.
We signed Kennum and have two young guys already.

I can see that mindset. Draft someone like Chubbs or Barkley since the first 3 will be QBs.

Originally Posted by OrangeHoof

Elway lined up under guard once during his rookie year. Didn't make him a failure. The question is Allen's accuracy. I'd put him in one of those made-for-tv contests where the mechanical receivers run around with little bulls-eyes next to their outstretched cardboard hands. How often can he hit the bulls-eye? If the answer is one or none, he'll be the next Ryan Mallett. Also, can Allen read defenses? I think those will become more important than whether he can hit the 60-yard up and out.

Yeah....the guy runs around in the backfield then fires the ball 80 yards downfield because he can and the defense cant play the whole field. One connection...one touchdown.

Originally Posted by OrangeHoof

Elway lined up under guard once during his rookie year. Didn't make him a failure. The question is Allen's accuracy. I'd put him in one of those made-for-tv contests where the mechanical receivers run around with little bulls-eyes next to their outstretched cardboard hands. How often can he hit the bulls-eye? If the answer is one or none, he'll be the next Ryan Mallett. Also, can Allen read defenses? I think those will become more important than whether he can hit the 60-yard up and out.

Allen’s been asked to do what is considered “advanced” in today’s NCAA, things like taking snaps from under center, using more than one word to call a play, using a huddle, changing protections. He wasn’t throwing to wide open 5-Star athletes and played in a conference that’s arguably better defensively than the BIG12.

They used routes that actually resemble what he’ll see in NFL, not 5 Banana routes, so while he doesn’t throw with anticipation he already knows what the those routes actually look like. He’s a Grip It And Rip It QB right now, those rarely last in the NFL, but he’s far more advanced now than even PL is.

Originally Posted by aberdien

If we could trust our coaching staff to develop him properly I would like Allen.

Since we have Keenum now maybe Elway is content with getting him and letting him sit.

Rosen > Darnold = Allen > Mayfield

Now that they have Keenum to work behind, if the Broncos take a QB, I wouldn't doubt if it was Allen.
He's going to take a lot of development, but I personally think he has by far the highest ceiling.

But Paxton has the same athletic ability. I still wonder whether he can't be developed the same way.
Either way, I think they'll be rolling the dice.

Paxton has terrible facial hair. He's not worth fighting for.

Originally Posted by aberdien

Paxton has terrible facial hair. He's not worth fighting for.

Why? The defense isn't as effective when they are laughing . . .

Originally Posted by TXBRONC

George was also bonafide coach killer, I can't say I've heard the same about Allen.

I'm not arguing that Josh Allen is Jeff George. For one thing I don't even have an opinion on that. For another nobody can know at this point. But, I pointed out that pure arm talent had Jeff George the #1 overall pick, so that can be an overrated ability!

Jay Cutler had amazing arm talent too.

Originally Posted by Cugel

I'm not arguing that Josh Allen is Jeff George. For one thing I don't even have an opinion on that. For another nobody can know at this point. But, I pointed out that pure arm talent had Jeff George the #1 overall pick, so that can be an overrated ability!

Jay Cutler had amazing arm talent too.

Ok, then I misunderstood. The comment "the George is strong with this one" was leading me to believe you were saying that Allen is coach killer.