Thread: Josh Allen.....vs Elway

Originally Posted by Von Kinger

If he was even in the low 60's he'd probably have gone from a preference pick in a lot of people's eyes to being the man! I don't think that he's unfixable, but god damn...50's....woof.

But he is a man's man, so I bet VJ loves him.

Originally Posted by slim

But he is a man's man, so I bet VJ loves him.

Wait...what?

Originally Posted by WARHORSE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRDSJJx9OtY

Remind you of anyone?
When people talk about the prototypical QB coming out of college, John Elway is the best prospect to have ever pushed the doors open and walked into the NFL.

This kid imo is not quite as polished at this point.....but he sure looks like someone we all admire. When hes off, he throws balls way out of bounds....so did Elway. But his ability to rocket the ball downfield and into the deep outs on the run is parallel to John. John had better touch coming out of the backfield on swing passes and short underneath throws......but Elway also threw a heckuva lot more to this point in their careers.

The upside is too much to ignore. Generational arm strength with an ability to run, as well as being strong.


I like Baker Mayfield alot. Would not be upset if we drafted him. I like Darnold a little, Rosen less. But this is the guy I would take if we are set on using the pick on a QB being we are that high.

Allen has a cannon for an arm. Know who else had similarly amazing arm talent? "Generational arm strength and the ability to run."



"The George is Strong With This One!"

Originally Posted by Von Kinger

His completion percentage scares me, a lot. His talent is tremendous, and he's not coming off as entitled and or mentally insufficient. I think the Browns actually increased their chances of taking him when they traded for Tyrod Taylor.

Elway had a low completion percentage early in his career because he was forced to throw down the field so much to bail the offense out of bad positions. The offense under Reeves was not designed to give him easy completions. The offense was designed to run on first and second down.

Could it be a similar situation with Allen? That offense had him pushing the ball down the field a lot.

Originally Posted by Cugel

Allen has a cannon for an arm. Know who else had similarly amazing arm talent? "Generational arm strength and the ability to run."



"The George is Strong With This One!"

I don't want to draft Allen but this comparison is so ******* painfully stupid it's embarrassing. Allen's attitude and personality are nothing like Jeff George. At least put a modicum of thought into this stuff.

Originally Posted by chazoe60

I don't want to draft Allen but this comparison is so ******* painfully stupid it's embarrassing. Allen's attitude and personality are nothing like Jeff George. At least put a modicum of thought into this stuff.

George hated everyone and was selfishly entitled to the world (in his eyes). Allen...made his bones in a humble school/conference and doesn't put on 'airs'. I don't really see the comparison. Especially since, George was good at times - it was his own brain and arrogance that got in his ways. Since Allen is the opposite of that...I think...Cugel...just...argued on his behalf....

Whoa.

Originally Posted by Von Kinger

George hated everyone and was selfishly entitled to the world (in his eyes). Allen...made his bones in a humble school/conference and doesn't put on 'airs'. I don't really see the comparison. Especially since, George was good at times - it was his own brain and arrogance that got in his ways. Since Allen is the opposite of that...I think...Cugel...just...argued on his behalf....

Whoa.

You sure you're not talking about Jay Cutler.

Originally Posted by Von Kinger

Wait...what?

VJ likes men that like men.

Originally Posted by slim

VJ likes men that like men.

You think VJ role plays.

Originally Posted by Nomad

You think VJ role plays.

Yes. He is currently playing the role of an NFL head coach. Not a very believable performance, IMO.

Originally Posted by slim

Yes. He is currently playing the role of an NFL head coach. Not a very believable performance, IMO.

How did he buffalo Elway into hiring him over Shanahan?

Originally Posted by Nomad

How did he buffalo Elway into hiring him over Shanahan?

IDK. I didn't understand it then and doubt I ever will.

Originally Posted by Nomad

How did he buffalo Elway into hiring him over Shanahan?

It would be inappropriate to describe how he did it.

*Edit*

But, if you ever saw Pulp Fiction and the scene with Jed and Marcellis Wallace than you might get a good idea.

Originally Posted by slim

IDK. I didn't understand it then and doubt I ever will.

Originally Posted by Northman

It would be appropriate to describe how he did it.

*Edit*

But, if you ever saw Pulp Fiction and the scene with Jed and Marcellis Wallace than you might get a good idea.

All I know is....Rick was right.

I've never watched 'Pulp Fiction', perhaps I should.

Originally Posted by Northman

It would be inappropriate to describe how he did it.

*Edit*

But, if you ever saw Pulp Fiction and the scene with Jed and Marcellis Wallace than you might get a good idea.

Blow torch and a pair of pliers?