Thread: With The 5th Pick of the NFL Draft....the Denver Broncos select..............

I think Keenum has a mental toughness that Plummer never had. Nothing was handed to him. He was undrafted. He took his lumps as a backup on some truly crappy teams. He's either going to be like Matt Cassel and cash in on his one season in the sun or he's going to be like Tony Romo that flourishes when he finally gets his chance to shine.

I don't think Plummer even liked playing football his last few years. Keenum breathes it.

Originally Posted by OrangeHoof

I think Keenum has a mental toughness that Plummer never had. Nothing was handed to him. He was undrafted. He took his lumps as a backup on some truly crappy teams. He's either going to be like Matt Cassel and cash in on his one season in the sun or he's going to be like Tony Romo that flourishes when he finally gets his chance to shine.

I don't think Plummer even liked playing football his last few years. Keenum breathes it.

I like how we make crazy ass assumptions about someone's drive to play football...

Originally Posted by OrangeHoof

I think Keenum has a mental toughness that Plummer never had. Nothing was handed to him. He was undrafted. He took his lumps as a backup on some truly crappy teams. He's either going to be like Matt Cassel and cash in on his one season in the sun or he's going to be like Tony Romo that flourishes when he finally gets his chance to shine.

I don't think Plummer even liked playing football his last few years. Keenum breathes it.

I think Plummer really made strides in that 2005 season. He only threw 7 ints that season. He was very effective for the stretch run offense that the Broncos ran. Plummer was a pretty tough minded QB imo. Confidence is a very fragile thing, especially with a position like QB. The bottom line with that situation is Shanahan made a mistake with Cutler. Poopy pants really had everything though and I can certainly see what Shanahan was seering. He had the size, the ARM, intelligence coming out Vanderbilt, and had the mobile skills that is really needed with the west coast offense. He really had everything you want, except for the things that cannot be measured and that is why drafts are such risks.

For me, there is no QB that will be available at FIVE that will be nothing more than a PROJECT. At best. Josh Allen? Does anyone else see a poor man version of Jake Locker with Allen? Who was the last QB that could not complete 60% at the college level that made it in the NFL? Not a factor? Of course it is a factor.

Besides, the Broncos already have young QB that could very well has as much or more potential as any PROJECT they would draft at FIVE. That is too valuable of a pick to waste it on a PROJECT at QB. There are some real fine players that can really benefit the Broncos THIS YEAR.

Originally Posted by MOtorboat

I like how we make crazy ass assumptions about someone's drive to play football...

You have never made assumptions? Pretty sure that is all we do. Besides, when he says, "I think" he is expressing an opinion.

I still think it is hilarious how there are Broncos fans that think the Broncos should have paid more than what the Vikings paid for Cousins who has proven less than Keenum. That, is funny.

Originally Posted by Broncoknight30

You have never made assumptions? Pretty sure that is all we do. Besides, when he says, "I think" he is expressing an opinion.

I still think it is hilarious how there are Broncos fans that think the Broncos should have paid more than what the Vikings paid for Cousins who has proven less than Keenum. That, is funny.

Cousins has proven less than Keenum? Keenum, with one relevant year, vs. Cousins' three relevant years?

Really?

I'm wondering if Elway restructured Von to cover the cost of getting rid of Paxton, among other things. Think about it. Trade Paxton and a pick to New York, draft his QOTF, and let him develop behind Keenum for a year or two. It gives Paxton a change of scenery, and the Giants can develop him behind Eli while still adding a top 5 pick to their team.

Yeah, yeah, I know. We've tried that before. I don't think that the plan was bad though. I think the QB they chose was bad. I'll be interested to see if there are any rumors of Denver talking to the Giants about trading up.

Originally Posted by Ziggy

I'm wondering if Elway restructured Von to cover the cost of getting rid of Paxton, among other things. Think about it. Trade Paxton and a pick to New York, draft his QOTF, and let him develop behind Keenum for a year or two. It gives Paxton a change of scenery, and the Giants can develop him behind Eli while still adding a top 5 pick to their team.

Yeah, yeah, I know. We've tried that before. I don't think that the plan was bad though. I think the QB they chose was bad. I'll be interested to see if there are any rumors of Denver talking to the Giants about trading up.

I have also thought Elway might try to trade Lynch - but it seems a little bit less likely given how the QB market has shaped up. Also, pretty sure Dave Gettleman isn't going to make his 1st move as Giants GM tying his future to Paxton Lynch as their QBOTF.

As for the cap space, my read on the situation is that there were like 15 different scenarios entering free agency and he just wanted to have max flexibility in the event he could opportunistically sign someone.

Now we’re denigrating Jake Plummer to prop up the new guy?

Originally Posted by Broncoknight30

You have never made assumptions? Pretty sure that is all we do. Besides, when he says, "I think" he is expressing an opinion.

I still think it is hilarious how there are Broncos fans that think the Broncos should have paid more than what the Vikings paid for Cousins who has proven less than Keenum. That, is funny.

This is getting ridiculous.

Originally Posted by OrangeHoof

I think Keenum has a mental toughness that Plummer never had. Nothing was handed to him. He was undrafted. He took his lumps as a backup on some truly crappy teams. He's either going to be like Matt Cassel and cash in on his one season in the sun or he's going to be like Tony Romo that flourishes when he finally gets his chance to shine.

I don't think Plummer even liked playing football his last few years. Keenum breathes it.

Remember when you called me ignorant? That was funny.

Originally Posted by HORSEPOWER 56

C’mon jaded, don’t you know that 10 minutes of watching YouTube highlights makes you a draft expert on that person and re-tweeting what guys like Mayock, Kiper, and Mcshay say makes you a draft expert!

This is why I hate this time of year. All the self proclaimed draftniks come out of the damned woodwork and make outrageous predictions based on nothing, yet they all act like they’re the ******* King Dingaling of the draft.

Lammey’s a scout now, just ask him.

Also, he doesn’t retweet these guys, he flat out plagiarizes their scouting reports word for word on the air. Usually Lance Zierlein.

Originally Posted by Jaded

Remember when you called me ignorant? That was funny.

If he did, then he was very accurate. Tell us again how the Broncos should have paid more than the Vikings for an overrated QB. Love to eye roll your ridiculous posts.

Originally Posted by Von Kinger

Cousins has proven less than Keenum? Keenum, with one relevant year, vs. Cousins' three relevant years?

Really?

I still think it is hilarious how there are Broncos fans that think the Broncos should have paid more than what the Vikings paid for Cousins. Ignorant as hell.

I'm sorry. I didn't realize that 12 years after the fact there would still be people jerking themselves off about Jake Plummer. I guess they'd forgotten all those WTF turnovers that prompted Shanahan to trade up for Cutler in the first place.

Originally Posted by OrangeHoof

I'm sorry. I didn't realize that 12 years after the fact there would still be people jerking themselves off about Jake Plummer. I guess they'd forgotten all those WTF turnovers that prompted Shanahan to trade up for Cutler in the first place.

...and Shanahan never saw the playoffs again...with the Broncos, anyway...