Thread: Broncos will sign Case Keenum, per Schefter

Originally Posted by turftoad

I have said that he may not be the answer. He still has a lot to prove.

Anyway, he was the best FA QB for the money to take a chance on. He's a Bronco. The others are not.

I don't know that I've seen a single person say "He's our long term solution" but Jaded likes to put words in peoples mouths. Supposedly according to Jaded, I said that Trevor was the second coming of Brady... Never said anything of the sort, but Jaded clings hard to it.

I doubt Case is here past his 2 year contract, I hope he does well enough that we have to consider extending him, but I do not expect that to happen, the team will need to groom another QB over the next two years.

I think people are warming up to Case (I am) and like him as a person, he's a likable guy, he's a Broncos fan like we are, so it's natural to hope that he succeeds, but hoping he does well (which means the team by extension is likely doing well) is a farcry from saying that he's our franchise QB.

If someone on here said it, I must have missed it, but I highly doubt that anyone did.

Originally Posted by chazoe60

This is basically where I am at. I do not see a big difference between him and Cousins other than contract demands. Cousins had some serious red flags as well, like a 4-19 record against winning teams. I cant for the life of me figure out why people are complaining about CK's contract. His deal is extremely team friendly considering how starting caliber QB contracts have been dealt out the last few years. Hell, CK is making less than Osweiler got paid 3 years ago.

We have a capable starter now who will at the very worst be a step above what we had last year and at his best we could have a hidden gem with a chip on his shoulder.

Our biggest problem now is we have to get rid of that giant moron "leader of men" who will anchor this franchise in shitsville for as long as he is allowed to be the Head Coach.

I was complaining about the contract before the details came out. It's a lot better than I expected it to be when the original reports were $18M per year. The cap hit is reasonable at it is fairly team friendly.

With Radio as our coach, it may not matter who our QB is, we may be doomed by bad coaching regardless of QB play.

Talib is gone for multiple reasons. We can't realistically pay big money to 3 corners and expect to be able to fix much else. That being said, Talib is 32 and history dictates that CB's tend to drop off significantly at that age. Just 3 years ago, I remember reading an article that there were NO corners on any roster over the age of 31 at the time. And if we're able to take fanboi glasses off for a minute, we can see that Talib was clearly the weakest of our corners last year and showed plenty of signs of slowing down. So in the end it only made sense to release him. he wasn't going to agree to a pay cut and he's too old to restructure.

Bingo.

Originally Posted by Freyaka

I don't know that I've seen a single person say "He's our long term solution" but Jaded likes to put words in peoples mouths. Supposedly according to Jaded, I said that Trevor was the second coming of Brady... Never said anything of the sort, but Jaded clings hard to it.

I doubt Case is here past his 2 year contract, I hope he does well enough that we have to consider extending him, but I do not expect that to happen, the team will need to groom another QB over the next two years.

I think people are warming up to Case (I am) and like him as a person, he's a likable guy, he's a Broncos fan like we are, so it's natural to hope that he succeeds, but hoping he does well (which means the team by extension is likely doing well) is a farcry from saying that he's our franchise QB.

If someone on here said it, I must have missed it, but I highly doubt that anyone did.

Well, I never said it. But I don't mind saying it's possible. (It's also possible he could even bust.
"Possible" is a handy word in that way.) Case said he would be better this year. Good as he was
last year, wouldn't that be a dream? Of course, "want to" is not necessarily reality. But the type
of white-hot desire he has can go a long way toward achieving a state of excellence. So can
true love for one's team. That's something Case has -- the Broncos are his boyhood team.

Originally Posted by Von Kinger

Stop quoting Joe - it makes having him on ignore less wonderful!

How dare you.

Originally Posted by BroncoJoe

How dare you.

Quoted for visibility.

Originally Posted by topscribe

Well, I never said it. But I don't mind saying it's possible. (It's also possible he could even bust.
"Possible" is a handy word in that way.) Case said he would be better this year. Good as he was
last year, wouldn't that be a dream? Of course, "want to" is not necessarily reality. But the type
of white-hot desire he has can go a long way toward achieving a state of excellence. So can
true love for one's team. That's something Case has -- the Broncos are his boyhood team.

Also, if we were going to sign someone for two years for 30 mill I wouldn't blink an eye if it were Brees or such but not Cousins at this point.

We really don't want to throw PL, Kelly or a rookie out there this year so 18 mill for Keenum makes to much sense.

Originally Posted by turftoad

Also, if we were going to sign someone for two years for 30 mill I wouldn't blink an eye if it were Brees or such but not Cousins at this point.

We really don't want to throw PL, Kelly or a rookie out there this year so 18 mill for Keenum makes to much sense.

I actually think I'd have been against giving Brees $30 mil because he's so far up there in years, there is no way he's got more than 1 MAYBE 2 years left in him.

Originally Posted by Freyaka

I actually think I'd have been against giving Brees $30 mil because he's so far up there in years, there is no way he's got more than 1 MAYBE 2 years left in him.

That's what I said buddy. Two years.

Originally Posted by Freyaka

I actually think I'd have been against giving Brees $30 mil because he's so far up there in years, there is no way he's got more than 1 MAYBE 2 years left in him.

In the playoff game against Minny, Brees underthrew one of his two INTs by six yards. That
wouldn't have happened with a younger Brees. He's apparently lost so much arm strength
that I fear you're right about him.

Originally Posted by turftoad

That's what I said buddy. Two years.

I just don't think it's worth paying a guy that could fall apart at any minute that kind of money

Originally Posted by Freyaka

I don't know that I've seen a single person say "He's our long term solution" but Jaded likes to put words in peoples mouths. Supposedly according to Jaded, I said that Trevor was the second coming of Brady... Never said anything of the sort, but Jaded clings hard to it.

I doubt Case is here past his 2 year contract, I hope he does well enough that we have to consider extending him, but I do not expect that to happen, the team will need to groom another QB over the next two years.

I think people are warming up to Case (I am) and like him as a person, he's a likable guy, he's a Broncos fan like we are, so it's natural to hope that he succeeds, but hoping he does well (which means the team by extension is likely doing well) is a farcry from saying that he's our franchise QB.

If someone on here said it, I must have missed it, but I highly doubt that anyone did.

Essentially, the Keenum signing is a one year tryout to see if he can be the franchise QB of the future. If he plays like he did in MN and throws 22 TDs and 7 picks and over 3,000 yards or something, then the Broncos tear up the last year of his contract and give him a 4 year deal. If not, then they can walk after 2 seasons and draft their QB of the future and they won't have spent much money.

The recent confirmation that Elway never made an offer to Cousins because they didn't think he was worth the extra $10m a year he would cost over Keenum, and within hours of the start of the FA period, had a deal in place for Keenum proves that they take Keenum seriously. They want him to succeed.

Lots of fans apparently don't like Keenum and don't want him as the Broncos QB and love some other guy - Cousins or some draft pick. But, Elway obviously does not agree with this sentiment that "of course Keenum isn't a long-term prospect."

"Of course" that is just total B.S. He is being given the chance to do that. Elway just announced that Keenum is our starter for 2018. That means he either doesn't draft a QB at #5 or else drafts one and sits him on the bench while Keenum starts.

Since the latter would create more controversy the most probable course is that the Broncos either don't draft a QB at all, or take one in the 2nd or later rounds, or at most trade back, and get a QB late in the first round.

With the Jets move up to #3 the odds the Broncos take a QB in the top 5 are greatly diminished.

Originally Posted by Freyaka

I don't know that I've seen a single person say "He's our long term solution" but Jaded likes to put words in peoples mouths. Supposedly according to Jaded, I said that Trevor was the second coming of Brady... Never said anything of the sort, but Jaded clings hard to it.

I doubt Case is here past his 2 year contract, I hope he does well enough that we have to consider extending him, but I do not expect that to happen, the team will need to groom another QB over the next two years.

I think people are warming up to Case (I am) and like him as a person, he's a likable guy, he's a Broncos fan like we are, so it's natural to hope that he succeeds, but hoping he does well (which means the team by extension is likely doing well) is a farcry from saying that he's our franchise QB.

If someone on here said it, I must have missed it, but I highly doubt that anyone did.

Top said it.

And I never said you thought TS was the second coming of Brady, I said you John Kerry on the drop of a hat, TS included.

Originally Posted by Freyaka

I actually think I'd have been against giving Brees $30 mil because he's so far up there in years, there is no way he's got more than 1 MAYBE 2 years left in him.

Until Broncos sign Brees, then you’ll change your opinion on this too.

Btw, this is a stupid take, Brees is the QB you dream that CK is. MAYBE 1 year of Brees is far better than anything Denver has atm.