Thread: Colin Trevorrow fired from Star Wars: Episode IX due to disagreements over The Last Jedi

Originally Posted by King87

Again, it’s not weighing one plight against the other. And the conversation is actually validating the diversity inclusions in the content.

Natural, organic diversity inclusions that further or enrich the story is one thing. Forced and awkward storylines and characters are another. I.e. the purple haired feminist icon making the toxically masculine Poe and Fin look like morons and traitors, the freeing of the poor wittle space horseys from the evil rich banker society were weak ass storylines that did nothing to further the Star Wars universe. But it did confirm the worst fears of Star Wars fans of what Disney would force down our throats. Good old ham handed Hollywood virtue signaling.

Originally Posted by atwater27

Natural, organic diversity inclusions that further or enrich the story is one thing. Forced and awkward storylines and characters are another. I.e. the purple haired feminist icon making the toxicically masculine Poe and Fin look like morons and traitors, the freeing of the poor wittle space horseys from the evil rich banker society were weak ass storylines that did nothing to further the Star Wars universe. But it did confirm the worst fears of Star Wars fans of what Disney would force down our throats. Good old ham handed Hollywood virtue signaling.

The horsey things was dumb but so was that entire storyarch because it amounted to nothing. But that arch didn't smack of SJW to me because the duo was shocked to realize that their 'side' was guilty of enriching war profiteering, too. That sort of 'reality check' to show that the culpability reminded me of something that my dad would have taught me.

I also took the purple lady not so much as a feminist or a critique on toxic masculinity so much as for a need of being tight-lipped, responsible, prudent, structured, etc. Now I do think that these movies are of a political bent, and I do think that Disney does pander to social justice and I think that they do because it's financially feasible and rewards it.

That's the real kicker to me - it's just easy money. For better or worse, right, wrong, in the middle, however you want to call it, people want to see themselves being represented. And Disney will do that for you, for the price of a movie ticket because it ensures to them that the theaters will pay the outrageous licensing fee to show the film, and that you might buy some merchandise down the road.

I like the concept of a more inclusive universe - but I'm not dumb enough to not see this for what it is:

Fair enough. I will say one thing. I could see Lando nailing an alien or even a hot femme bot. But if the new solo movie has young Calrissian trying to lay some pipe on Han, you can count me out of any star wars movie going forward.

Originally Posted by atwater27

Fair enough. I will say one thing. I could see Lando nailing an alien or even a hot femme bot. But if the new solo movie has young Calrissian trying to lay some pipe on Han, you can count me out of any star wars movie going forward.

Hey, if it makes sense you'll be back. If Lando does it to con Solo or get one over on him, that would make sense.

Originally Posted by King87

Hey, if it makes sense you'll be back. If Lando does it to con Solo or get one over on him, that would make sense.

It would not make sense even in the hallucinogenic caves of dagobah.

Originally Posted by atwater27

It would not make sense even in the hallucinogenic caves of dagobah.

Okay, to be fair, we would have to rely on Falco's expertise on that matter! Respect the experts, dammit!

Originally Posted by atwater27

Fair enough. I will say one thing. I could see Lando nailing an alien or even a hot femme bot. But if the new solo movie has young Calrissian trying to lay some pipe on Han, you can count me out of any star wars movie going forward.

If it is REALLY overt that Lando is trying torpedo Han's thermal exhaust vent, then I will agree with you. That would be retconning the character and his relationship with Han and undercut their friendship. My point was that having Lando be flirty with everyone was already kind of his nature even in Empire Strikes Back and it can be implied that maybe sometimes after a big party he is open to some loving of any kind. Having him wink and blow kisses at Han and lick his lips would be something else entirely. A charming and flirtatious nature is one thing, straight up trying to seduce Han is another!

The odd thing is, if disney wanted to actually have some animals rights thing going on.

They could show what happened to the Wookies. Hanhar the wookie, was in slavery for most of his life.

But naw, giant horse chihuahua racing.

Originally Posted by ShaneFalco

The odd thing is, if disney wanted to actually have some animals rights thing going on.

They could show what happened to the Wookies. Hanhar the wookie, was in slavery for most of his life.

But naw, giant horse chihuahua racing.

In Empire Luke rides a Tauntaun to its demise in a bitter cold landscape then the poor animals carcass is abused to save Luke's life but somehow now we're supposed to feel sorry for racehorses? Just a ******* dumbass side plot that never needed to exist. **** Disney.

Originally Posted by ShaneFalco

The odd thing is, if disney wanted to actually have some animals rights thing going on.

They could show what happened to the Wookies. Hanhar the wookie, was in slavery for most of his life.

But naw, giant horse chihuahua racing.

It was a poor attempt at recreating the pod racing. I'll agree it was an unnecessary scene. But I could care less about that, I'm more interested in whether Benicio Del Toro's character was a waste of space and an attempt to get in a famous actor solely for the sake of having his name attached, or whether or not he becomes a central figure to the overall story arc in the third movie. His character also could, if they do it right, make for an awesome standalone which I'm sure you'll find a reason to hate.

Originally Posted by MOtorboat

It was a poor attempt at recreating the pod racing. I'll agree it was an unnecessary scene. But I could care less about that, I'm more interested in whether Benicio Del Toro's character was a waste of space and an attempt to get in a famous actor solely for the sake of having his name attached, or whether or not he becomes a central figure to the overall story arc in the third movie. His character also could, if they do it right, make for an awesome standalone which I'm sure you'll find a reason to hate.

That scene wishes it was as well choreographed as the Pod Race. At least the pod race served the story to show that Anakin had Jedi-like reflexes despite never being trained, and winning the Pod Race freed him from slavery and also got the part they needed to get off Tatooine. All of those things set in motion the events that would lead him to be Darth Vader.

The Casino Planet was part animal rights message and part commentary on the business of war and how the ultra wealthy made their money from both sides. It could have been handled better and with less exposition in what was already a movie that lacked focus on the only good story which was the Luke/Rey/Kylo arc.

Originally Posted by MOtorboat

It was a poor attempt at recreating the pod racing. I'll agree it was an unnecessary scene. But I could care less about that, I'm more interested in whether Benicio Del Toro's character was a waste of space and an attempt to get in a famous actor solely for the sake of having his name attached, or whether or not he becomes a central figure to the overall story arc in the third movie. His character also could, if they do it right, make for an awesome standalone which I'm sure you'll find a reason to hate.

oh man, i almost forgot how awful that part was.

To ruin an actor like him with such a terrible and pointless character

if you think a bad role can 'ruin' an actor then Tom Hanks, Brando, Travolta, Jackson etc. are all ruined. Stop trolling, SF.

There is no place for me as a SW fan. I must leave you now, and watch Battlestar Galatica.

Originally Posted by King87

There is no place for me as a SW fan. I must leave you now, and watch Battlestar Galatica.

You should start with the original Star Trek. You need a break-in period. Or just a period. Not sure which...