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    Cecil Lammey is stating plan B included Case Keenum, Teddy Bridgewater and AJ McCarron. Plan C would be Sam Bradford. I want plan A, Kirk Cousins but with Minnesota in the mix this might make it really hard to get him.

    So lets just take plan A out of this for a moment and look at plan B/C. I don't like plan C at all. I like Sam Bradford but he won't stay healthy. I don't know why the Broncos would even consider this option. Same with Bridgewater, his injury was gruesome and I don't see him ever being the same again.

    That leaves Case Keenum and AJ McCarron who are both in the plan B spot. Keep in mind, IF we go plan B then we will most likely be drafting a QB in round 1 at pick 5. When you look at Keenums body of work is it really all that impressive? I know he is a Kubiak guy but what has he really done? Why spend 20 plus mill for that? Why not go with AJ who will be drastically cheaper than Keenum and maybe, just maybe has more upside. I know AJ only has a few games under his belt but so did Garapolo. This allows us to retain guys like Wolfe, Sanders or Talib and still build through the draft?

    Again, my preferred choice is plan A but it might not be realistic and I think AJ with a rookie might be the route we take. That gives us 1 veteran, a rookie, Lynch and Kelly. Osweiler and Siemian would be gone.
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    AJM with a rookie, Josh A, Josh R, or Mayfield seems to be a low risk upgrade at an affordable price. Cousins scares me to death, im sorry, hes as unproven as anyone else. Too expensive for an unproven QB.

    Broncos need to shore up the Line to have any chance of moving up from the cellars. Can't afford to overpay anywhere.
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    None of those guys are viable starters. If we don't get Cousins the only logical play is to draft a QB and start him. Case Keenum had a great single season...so what, he's a loser career backup. He's not the next Rich Gannon. Bridgewater and BRadford are health issues guys with declining talent.

    If we can't get a top ten QB like Cousins then it's just time to take that young guy and stop trying to pretend like we're contenders with this roster. We're not.
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    skip plans B and C. . . just draft a rookie and play him-- he's not going to learn on the bench, and none of those guys are worth what they're going to get. . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shazam! View Post
    AJM with a rookie seems to be a low risk upgrade at an affordable price.
    not if you listen to NFL analysts-- they're all predicting AJ is going to get $18 million/year. . . that's not affordable at all. . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by dogfish View Post
    not if you listen to NFL analysts-- they're all predicting AJ is going to get $18 million/year. . . that's not affordable at all. . .
    Nor is he worth it. He’s started less games than Osweiler when Houston gave him that big contract. Frankly, I hope Cleveland signs him on the first day of FA so he’s off the board right away. Jackson already tried to trade for him, hopefully he still wants him.


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    $18 million per is a bargain now
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shazam! View Post
    $18 million per is a bargain now
    For a guy who started 3 games and lost 2 of them?


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    We will sign a vet. We know this is going to happen. Elway is not going to go into the season without one. He isn’t. He never has. He never will.

    Knowing this, if we can’t get Kirk, I will want Bradford. He is the best out of all of those scrub qbs. Then we draft Rosen or Baker.

    That’s it
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    Draft: Trade a 3rd and 6th this year to a team to move up and get a 2nd next year (this will happen).

    Players I want:
    Jake Ferguson (Jake Butt) or Jelani Woods or Jeremy Ruckert or Cade Otten (owen daniels) at TE- All 4th rd or later.
    Troy Anderson LB 3rd/4th rd (yay Timmy!)
    Neil Farrell, JR DL- run stuffer- bye purcell

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    Quote Originally Posted by Von Kinger View Post
    None of those guys are viable starters. If we don't get Cousins the only logical play is to draft a QB and start him. Case Keenum had a great single season...so what, he's a loser career backup. He's not the next Rich Gannon. Bridgewater and BRadford are health issues guys with declining talent.

    If we can't get a top ten QB like Cousins then it's just time to take that young guy and stop trying to pretend like we're contenders with this roster. We're not.
    I agree, and I do want us to draft a rookie if we don't get Cousins. However we do need a veteran. Who on our current roster could fill that role? Siemian or Osweiler? Can we win now with those guys while giving a rookie time to catch up to NFL speed? If we draft a rookie QB at 5 then he better be ready to start day 1. We can't miss in the top 5...which is scary bc our drafts have sucked.

    My biggest fear is Case Keenum getting a boatload of cash to come here. This would be a huge mistake and maybe one that is a deciding factor on Elways future role here. He needs to hit a home run and work his magic this offseason. I hope he realizes that
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    Quote Originally Posted by dogfish View Post
    skip plans B and C. . . just draft a rookie and play him-- he's not going to learn on the bench, and none of those guys are worth what they're going to get. . .
    So no veteran QB then? Just roll with the rookie, Lynch and Kelly? I can't see that happening. Someone has to help these guys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dogfish View Post
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    AJM with a rookie seems to be a low risk upgrade at an affordable price.
    not if you listen to NFL analysts-- they're all predicting AJ is going to get $18 million/year. . . that's not affordable at all. . .
    So lets say Minny get Cousins and Arizona goes after Keenum. Our only competition would be the Jets and I think they also want to draft a QB. Realistically who is going to pay AJ 18 mill a year? I think his market is closer to 12-15 a year depending on what happens in the next couple of months.

    Hell, Siemians contract is going to be less than 2 mill. We have options and I think the only guy we break the bank for is Cousins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DenBronx View Post
    So no veteran QB then?
    not for 18 million, hell no. . . maybe we can just share matt hasselbeck with indy or something. . . bring the other mccown out of retirement. . . i see zero sense in cutting a guy like talib or sanders so we can afford to pay stupid money to the likes of AJ mccarron, sam bradford, or tyrod taylor. . . if tradition says you have to have a vet, fine-- as long as we can find a cheap one who's a mentor only, not a half-assed starter who's getting paid as much as von miller. . . if 16+ million per year is now "market value" for a shitty backup QB, then by all means, just keep trevor in that role. . . he's more experienced than freakin' AJ!

    as i've said before, i'd rather pay 30 for kirk and actually get a good quarterback, than pay close to twenty for a guy who sucks. . . the bears didn't need to waste all that money on mike glennon, and we should learn from that example. . . gimme a minute, i want to pull up a FA chart and see who else is available. . . i wonder how much it would cost to re-sign brock. . . i just hate investing big in a guy who you won't win anything with. . .

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