Thread: Plan B or C at QB

Originally Posted by dogfish

not for 18 million, hell no. . . maybe we can just share matt hasselbeck with indy or something. . . bring the other mccown out of retirement. . . i see zero sense in cutting a guy like talib or sanders so we can afford to pay stupid money to the likes of AJ mccarron, sam bradford, or tyrod taylor. . . if tradition says you have to have a vet, fine-- as long as we can find a cheap one who's a mentor only, not a half-assed starter who's getting paid as much as von miller. . . if 16+ million per year is now "market value" for a shitty backup QB, then by all means, just keep trevor in that role. . . he's more experienced than freakin' AJ!

as i've said before, i'd rather pay 30 for kirk and actually get a good quarterback, than pay close to twenty for a guy who sucks. . . the bears didn't need to waste all that money on mike glennon, and we should learn from that example. . . gimme a minute, i want to pull up a FA chart and see who else is available. . . i wonder how much it would cost to re-sign brock. . . i just hate investing big in a guy who you won't win anything with. . .

What you are saying reminds me of what the Bengals did with Jon Kitna. Found a smart veteran who was holding no angst regarding being a mentor.

Bringing back Brock is a better idea as a backup than paying for one of those guys. We're not trying to pay a guy who should be a bench QB big money because there is some upside to him. Nope. We're looking for someone who isn't that great, might be okay in a game or two, but who knows the game and isn't going to be picked up any time soon. Ironically, Sanchez could be our Kitna.

okay, here we go. . . if we just want a guy to start for six weeks until the rookie is "ready," then give me some schlub like oz, drew stanton, chad henne, derek anderson, matt moore, kellen clemens, blaine gabbert, EJ manuel, or TJ yates. . . go big or go home. . . what, are we going to the super bowl with vance joseph and sam bradford? i think it's foolish to pay for a premium backup/spot starter with this roster. . . VJ doesn't need a ferrari, or even a trans am-- he's just going to wreck it anyway. . .

if we're drafting a blue chip rookie, just play the kid. . . it didn't hurt guys like carr, wentz, or watson. . . let the kid take his lumps and learn from them. . .

honestly, i don't necessarily think you guys are wrong in saying that we'll sign a vet regardless. . . i'm just not a fan of paying big money to a mid-tier journeyman type. . . it's a waste of time as well as money. . .

We just rolled over a little more than 10 mill and that's before we cut or renegotiate with anyone. This leaves us with around 27-28 mill currently.

Originally Posted by DenBronx

We we just rolled over a little more than 10 mill and that's before we cut or renegotiate with anyone. This leaves us with around 27-28 mill currently.

There's plenty of money...

Originally Posted by MOtorboat

Originally Posted by DenBronx

We we just rolled over a little more than 10 mill and that's before we cut or renegotiate with anyone. This leaves us with around 27-28 mill currently.

There's plenty of money...

To do what?

Paxton Lynch is the biggest question mark for me... I believe Elway is going to want to give him a 3rd season to develop as opposed to trading him for pennies on the dollar this offseason. Then he is also going to want to give Chad Kelly a chance in camp.

So you've got 2 QB slots already spoken for and I think it's unlikely either of them get cut. Assuming we bring 4 QBs to camp - it's hard to believe that the additional 2 would both be viable starters. And we know JFE will sign at least one veteran QB in free agency.

So the decision really hinges on whether you think AJM or Keenum are worth starter-type salaries, because they won't be available at a discount, you'd have to be committing to them. I wouldn't rule it out - but this seems like the riskiest path where you could end up paying a ton for not much production.

I think Elway will sign/trade for a Mark Sanchez equivalent in free agency who is cheap and draft a QB. A Josh McCown type might be perfect to mentor 3 young dudes and not insert his ego.

Originally Posted by Von Kinger

What you are saying reminds me of what the Bengals did with Jon Kitna. Found a smart veteran who was holding no angst regarding being a mentor.

Bringing back Brock is a better idea as a backup than paying for one of those guys. We're not trying to pay a guy who should be a bench QB big money because there is some upside to him. Nope. We're looking for someone who isn't that great, might be okay in a game or two, but who knows the game and isn't going to be picked up any time soon. Ironically, Sanchez could be our Kitna.

kitna, good call. . . you got his number?

Originally Posted by Buff

I think Elway will sign/trade for a Mark Sanchez equivalent in free agency who is cheap and draft a QB. A Josh McCown type might be perfect to mentor 3 young dudes and not insert his ego.

can't we get one of the other mccown boys cheaper? they're all basically the same. . .

Yep, definitely soccer

Alright, I'm back on the Cousins wagon.

Originally Posted by Buff

Paxton Lynch is the biggest question mark for me... I believe Elway is going to want to give him a 3rd season to develop as opposed to trading him for pennies on the dollar this offseason. Then he is also going to want to give Chad Kelly a chance in camp.

So you've got 2 QB slots already spoken for and I think it's unlikely either of them get cut. Assuming we bring 4 QBs to camp - it's hard to believe that the additional 2 would both be viable starters. And we know JFE will sign at least one veteran QB in free agency.

So the decision really hinges on whether you think AJM or Keenum are worth starter-type salaries, because they won't be available at a discount, you'd have to be committing to them. I wouldn't rule it out - but this seems like the riskiest path where you could end up paying a ton for not much production.

I think Elway will sign/trade for a Mark Sanchez equivalent in free agency who is cheap and draft a QB. A Josh McCown type might be perfect to mentor 3 young dudes and not insert his ego.

He'd be fine rolling with Pax as the #2 for a rookie.

Damn. Now you got me thinking.

Swag is totally expendable. If he's not a legit QB competitor, he's the UDFA camp arm. Lynch is borderline cut.

What's the timing on signing free agent QBs? Will we know prior to draft if we have a Cousins/Keenum?

Originally Posted by Hawgdriver

He'd be fine rolling with Pax as the #2 for a rookie.

Damn. Now you got me thinking.

Swag is totally expendable. If he's not a legit QB competitor, he's the UDFA camp arm. Lynch is borderline cut.

What's the timing on signing free agent QBs? Will we know prior to draft if we have a Cousins/Keenum?

Knowing how Elway thinks - Swag ain't expendable. Look at how much he became attached to Brock. Look at how much rope Siemian got. His draft picks are his babies. Lynch is the opposite of borderline cut. He is completely safe from being cut - he's either on the roster or traded with absolutely no in-between.

Free agency starts March 14. We will know what the draft strategy is based on which veteran QB we sign.

Originally Posted by Buff

Knowing how Elway thinks - Swag ain't expendable. Look at how much he became attached to Brock. Look at how much rope Siemian got. His draft picks are his babies. Lynch is the opposite of borderline cut. He is completely safe from being cut - he's either on the roster or traded with absolutely no in-between.

Free agency starts March 14. We will know what the draft strategy is based on which veteran QB we sign.

You think Lynch would fetch a 7th? I can't judge these things.

Originally Posted by Buff

Knowing how Elway thinks - Swag ain't expendable. Look at how much he became attached to Brock. Look at how much rope Siemian got. His draft picks are his babies. Lynch is the opposite of borderline cut. He is completely safe from being cut - he's either on the roster or traded with absolutely no in-between.

Free agency starts March 14. We will know what the draft strategy is based on which veteran QB we sign.

Cut/trading PL costs Denver cap room.

Yeah I'd think a 7th/conditional 6th if he plays is what I'd expect a 1st rounder will fetch in their first rebound at minimum.