Thread: Here's what it would cost the Broncos to sign Kirk Cousins

So we guarantee more money for less salary as the rumors are circulating.

Im good with that. Honestly, I think Cousins has yet to play his best.

Originally Posted by weazel

Tebow?

SWAG AND TEBOW. i would go to every game next season

I don't mind signing him - and I don't mind a full blown rebuild.

Originally Posted by ShaneFalco

SWAG AND TEBOW. i would go to every game next season

Have fun sitting alone.

Oh, we will.

Originally Posted by Tned

This is what some guy on ESPN that I've never heard of says:



http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/2...-nfl-offseason

There is no way Denver will give him $33mil guaranteed AAV over the first three years. Even though the cap hit is only $84mil over those years, they won't do it.

Elway will get Von to restructure!

Originally Posted by wayninja

Let's get this shit done.

We joined a minor league baseball league? When did that happen?

Originally Posted by Rick

We joined a minor league baseball league? When did that happen?

With VJ and our current roster of QB's (besides sunshine, who coaches overlook), most minor league baseball teams would kick our ass.

Originally Posted by wayninja

Elway will get Von to restructure!

As bad as Von wants Cousins here (he's even made his case to Kirk for why he should come her) I actually could see this happening.

Originally Posted by Von Kinger

I don't mind signing him - and I don't mind a full blown rebuild.

I think it would depend on the rebuild. No Cousins and we draft Rosen or even Darnold, okay rebuild mode. We waste #5 on Allen because we’re still enamored with big armed guys with no accuracy? It’s more than a rebuild, it’s a disaster.

Any Bronco fan wanting Elway to break the bank on Cousins is not seeing what QBs giant salaries are doing to teams. Even though this SB this year was not exactly about defense, it is still defense that is key. If one QB's salary does not allow a team to field a defense, then it won't matter who the QB is. Ask Brees and his ability to throw for over 5000 yards every year while they had historically bad defenses.

Top 5 defenses as far as PPG this year.

1. Minnesota
2. Jacksonville
3. LA Chargers
4. Philadelphia
5. New England

The top 10 highest paid QBs, none of them have won it AFTER getting paid. Interesting note. In 2010 when the Packers won it and last time Rodgers has even been to a SB, the Packers that year were number 2 in the NFL in defense in PPG. They gave up 15 PPG. For perspective, the Broncos in 2015 gave up 18.5 PPG.

The very next year in the Packers preparing for the massive Rodgers contract that would have to match Brees's $100 million dollar contract, the Packers defense went from #2 in 2010 to #32 in 2011. As I said, the Packers have not been back to the SB, even though they have had arguably the best QB in the NFL.

Since Eli Manning got paid, since Flacco got paid, etc, those teams have been very inconsistent.

This team does not have much to give and you all want them to pay all of that to Cousins who has proved beyond any doubt that he cannot carry a team by himself? BTW, no QB can. Brady is the 17th highest paid QB.

Originally Posted by Broncoknight30

Any Bronco fan wanting Elway to break the bank on Cousins is not seeing what QBs giant salaries are doing to teams. Even though this SB this year was not exactly about defense, it is still defense that is key. If one QB's salary does not allow a team to field a defense, then it won't matter who the QB is. Ask Brees and his ability to throw for over 5000 yards every year while they had historically bad defenses.

Top 5 defenses as far as PPG this year.

1. Minnesota
2. Jacksonville
3. LA Chargers
4. Philadelphia
5. New England

The top 10 highest paid QBs, none of them have won it AFTER getting paid. Interesting note. In 2010 when the Packers won it and last time Rodgers has even been to a SB, the Packers that year were number 2 in the NFL in defense in PPG. They gave up 15 PPG. For perspective, the Broncos in 2015 gave up 18.5 PPG.

The very next year in the Packers preparing for the massive Rodgers contract that would have to match Brees's $100 million dollar contract, the Packers defense went from #2 in 2010 to #32 in 2011. As I said, the Packers have not been back to the SB, even though they have had arguably the best QB in the NFL.

Since Eli Manning got paid, since Flacco got paid, etc, those teams have been very inconsistent.

This team does not have much to give and you all want them to pay all of that to Cousins who has proved beyond any doubt that he cannot carry a team by himself? BTW, no QB can. Brady is the 17th highest paid QB.

Out of curiosity, of the past SB winners where were their offenses ranked? I know Denver's was low because the 2015 was an outlier of a once in a lifetime defense. But im curious where the offenses were ranked for the SB teams that had won in the past 10 years.

Originally Posted by Northman

Out of curiosity, of the past SB winners where were their offenses ranked? I know Denver's was low because the 2015 was an outlier of a once in a lifetime defense. But im curious where the offenses were ranked for the SB teams that had won in the past 10 years.

I will look it up later. What I do know is the top 10 most prolific PASSING OFFENSES (yards and TDs) in the history of the NFL, only one won the SB (99 Rams.) Typically, it is an offense that is balanced.

Nevermind, i went and looked it up. Most of the teams that have won have at least had a top 10 offense so that does play a huge part in the success of SB winners.

2017. Philadelphia- 3rd
2016. New England- 2nd
2015. Denver- 16th
2014. Mew Emgland- 11th
2013. Seattle- 18th
2012. Baltimore- 16th
2011. Green Bay- 3rd
2010. New Orleans- 6th
2009. Pittsburgh- 7th
2008. NY Giants- 7th
2007. Indianapolis Colts- 5th

Also, Cousins has proven he can carry a team at least in terms of stats. The last two years he has had NOTHING to work with on offense yet has put up numbers. If you are implying that Foles carried the Eagles to a SB title you would be very wrong. He played a part but he was surrounded by far better talent. I know you want to keep beating this drum about QB's getting paid and then doing nothing (which is false by the way) but then you would be advocating changing QB's every couple of years based on a short term success with the team. You are then saying that Denver should take a scrub QB (which we already have) and then PRAY that they can win a SB on a defense that isnt near as good or ever will be to the 2015 team, and then drop the QB and replace him with another scrub/young QB and again PRAy that the team can repeat its success. I dont know if you have been paying attention the last couple of years because in order to even compete for a SB you have to have a very good to great QB on the roster tp even make the playoffs. Backup and subpar QB's can only get you so far and generally they have success when the team around them is much better and can CARRY them.