Thread: Here's what it would cost the Broncos to sign Kirk Cousins

Originally Posted by Freyaka

Originally Posted by Von Kinger

Then say no to Darnold, too. And Allen because his school doesn't produce anything. And Wentz, because his school didn't...wait a minute.

Rosen is physically superb and he's the best mind in the entire draft. Show me a QB who can pass like him, who thinks like him, and who is as competitive as him. Show me that guy, and that's who I want.

Actually Darnold was who I was thinking of...USC, not UCLA, carry on. I have no beef against Rosen.

Rosen is a bust waiting to happen. As I said before he Sam Bradford Frailty wise without Bradford's intangibles and personality. Look at the guy man slight shoulders he's built like an MIT engineer. I know he throws the best ball in the draft. But Kenny work well with other people? For me if I'm doing that. I'm going Sam or Baker.

Originally Posted by Jsteve01

Rosen is a bust waiting to happen. As I said before he Sam Bradford Frailty wise without Bradford's intangibles and personality. Look at the guy man slight shoulders he's built like an MIT engineer. I know he throws the best ball in the draft. But Kenny work well with other people? For me if I'm doing that. I'm going Sam or Baker.

This biggest concern I have with Rosen is that he’s already suffered an injury to his throwing shoulder and had 2 concussions this past year. Both are absolute no nos when looking at a QB, IMO. The thought of us drafting him high and either he can’t finish a season due to injuries, or worse he “retires” after his next concussion or a season or two because so many oft concussed players are doing it now or because he just doesn’t need the money. He comes from money.

Originally Posted by Jsteve01

Rosen is a bust waiting to happen. As I said before he Sam Bradford Frailty wise without Bradford's intangibles and personality. Look at the guy man slight shoulders he's built like an MIT engineer. I know he throws the best ball in the draft. But Kenny work well with other people? For me if I'm doing that. I'm going Sam or Baker.

Can he work well with other people? Well, he's a dominating personality that is hyper competitive and needs to win. **** yeah he can. As far as his build, I've seen Bradford in person, and Rosen isn't a giant, but they don't the same to me, man. They don't.

Originally Posted by Von Kinger

Can he work well with other people? Well, he's a dominating personality that is hyper competitive and needs to win. **** yeah he can. As far as his build, I've seen Bradford in person, and Rosen isn't a giant, but they don't the same to me, man. They don't.

Bradford is actually bigger

Rosen doesn't look smaller.

Guys, I don't think Baker, and Russell, and Brees, can make it. They small.

Originally Posted by Von Kinger

Rosen doesn't look smaller.

Guys, I don't think Baker, and Russell, and Brees, can make it. They small.

Baker won't make it because he sucks.

Damn.

Originally Posted by MOtorboat

Baker won't make it because he sucks.

Man, it's hard to say a dude with that college production sucks.

Originally Posted by chazoe60

Man, it's hard to say a dude with that college production sucks.

Well, Tebow did win 2 national championships.

He doesn't "suck". Nobody with a brain who watched a single game of his would say "he sucks." The question is whether he relies too much on his feet and isn't a good enough passer and at reading defenses to be an elite QB in the NFL. He's also smaller than coaches want, assuming that bigger QBs are more likely to be more durable.

That's a prejudice of GMs whether warranted or not. They still want to draft a guy like Josh Allen, because he's 6'5" 233 lbs rather than Mayfield whom scouts breathed a sigh of relief when he measured out at 6'0" 216 lbs.

NFL Football is a sport where they never heard of "Moneyball" and don't like it. College football is way ahead of their thinking.

Originally Posted by MOtorboat

Baker won't make it because he sucks.

I keep on trying to square your opinion with what I've seen from him the last 3 years, and I can't.

Pat Kirwin the other day on Sirius/XM NFL channel summed up Mayfield along these lines, "Very accurate, can make all the throws, hits the open shoulder, not just gets it to the receiver, but the open shoulder. Can make plays with his feet when protection breaks down, but always keeps his eyes downfield. He's tall enough, I think he'll make a fine NFL QB."

That's a paraphrase, but pretty close to what he had to say. And I have to say I can't find much to disagree with there.

So, I hope we pick him up. I'd much rather develop around him than pay Cousins $30 million. I'll predict that whoever gets Mayfield is getting a true NFL quality starter.

Mo sees a midget bonehead who doesn't have NFL playmaking ability. I don't fault him, though I don't agree or disagree. BM is the ultimate wildcard.

MO hates baker like a preacher hates sin!

Originally Posted by chazoe60

Man, it's hard to say a dude with that college production sucks.

Do you know who Timmy Chang is?

Originally Posted by NightTrainLayne

I keep on trying to square your opinion with what I've seen from him the last 3 years, and I can't.

Pat Kirwin the other day on Sirius/XM NFL channel summed up Mayfield along these lines, "Very accurate, can make all the throws, hits the open shoulder, not just gets it to the receiver, but the open shoulder. Can make plays with his feet when protection breaks down, but always keeps his eyes downfield. He's tall enough, I think he'll make a fine NFL QB."

That's a paraphrase, but pretty close to what he had to say. And I have to say I can't find much to disagree with there.

So, I hope we pick him up. I'd much rather develop around him than pay Cousins $30 million. I'll predict that whoever gets Mayfield is getting a true NFL quality starter.

We’ll see. I don’t see it. I see a guy with a crazy good senior season who was a late-round guy six months ago. The only thing that’s changed from then is a playoff berth.