I'm not sure our "system", such as it is, will allow any QB to thrive. To me the lessons of yesterday's SB were these
1) Nick Foles is a "franchise QB", or;
2) You really don't need a "franchise QB" to win in this league...if you have a solid roster and above all a top tier offensive line that is able to generate both a good running game and solid pass protection.
Now, I've liked Foles for a while. His 2013 season was almost otherworldly good. Then again, his subsequent record wasn't all that. Or maybe he got disregarded because of his 3rd round draft status, I'm really not sure. He sure played like the real deal yesterday, on the biggest stage he could be on. At a minimum he made himself a wealthy young man yesterday and good for him.
Would he succeed under VJ? Probably not. Nor will Cousins. Or pretty much anyone else I'm afraid
“What fresh hell is this?”
"A man who picks a cat up by the tail learns something which he can learn in no other way." - Mark Twain
I think a good enough QB could overcome VJ. I mean, Manning drug a Fox-led team to the super bowl.
I'm not saying cousins is Manning, but the point is a good enough QB can mask poor coaching. Is cousins good enough? Maybe, maybe not. But I'm willing to take the chance.
*dragged
I point out not to annoy, but to allay any more PED suspicions of Manning.
Foles! A 2nd string QB brought Eagles to Super Bowl and beat the patriots! Kirk Cousins couldn't!
This is playing chicken with a guy who has called their bluff 2 straight seasons. If they do this, Cousins does NOT have to play along and negotiate a long term deal with whatever team the Redskins want to trade him to. He can just sit back and collect his $34.6m.
And if he won't negotiate a long term deal because he wants to become a FA and choose his own team, then no team will trade with the Redskins, because they would only be acquiring Cousins for 1 season for $34.6m.
So, if any deal gets done, it will be ONLY because Cousins decided to stop fighting with the Redskins and let them trade him to a team he will pre-select and pre-negotiate a deal with. And then that team will have to acquire his rights by trade with the Redskins.
But, right now he has ZERO incentive to do any of that. He can force their hand if he wants to. And they have no power to force him to do anything. So, the price they get for him from some other team cannot be anything like what they are hoping and angling for - a second round pick or higher.
Can you imagine John Elway offering a high round draft pick for Cousins under this scenario? Me either. He might not be willing to offer any kind of pick at all.
Case Keenum would cost less than Cousins or Foles and be just as effective. I don't want to pay Manning money for any of them.
I miss the old Mile High Stadium.
I dont think Keenum is going anywhere.
And i would rather go with the other two who have proven a lot more than Keenum at this stage.
i kinda like foles, but he's always been up and down. . . i wouldn't want to assume that he's "arrived" now just because of a stretch of a couple good games, regardless of how big the stage. . . especially with as much RPO stuff as they were running. . . it's a pretty gimmicky offense-- good luck if you want to make that your base O long term. . . also, he's not bringing doug pederson with him to call the plays. . . cousins is a more consistent and effective pocket passer, with a better track record of results. . . you will have to pay him more, but you won't have to give up trade compensation to get him (no effing way they tag him). . . if we're going after a vet to reload, rather than a rookie to rebuild, then captain kirk is the guy i want. . .
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