Thread: Off-Season Notes, press conferences, etc.

Originally Posted by underrated29

You can have it all, my empire of Wolfe.

He will let us down...he will just get...hurt.

Originally Posted by Von Kinger

He will let us down...he will just get...hurt.

Not before he beats someone with his bloody arm

Originally Posted by Von Kinger

I detest paying chunks of cash to talented guys who rarely play. He's a mirage, NT.

He is a DE and the best we have. He has missed 3 games last last season, 0 season before, 4 games season before that. Miased 7 games in his 4 years. And he is on a team friendly contract that he got paid way less then Jackson and produced more while here.

NT was an abbreviation for your name and not his position. Sorry for the confusion!

Originally Posted by Von Kinger

NT was an abbreviation for your name and not his position. Sorry for the confusion!

If you're sorry, then quit being confused you daft jackhole!

Originally Posted by Davii

If you're sorry, then quit being confused you daft jackhole!

Mike Klis
‏Verified account @MikeKlis
3h3 hours ago

Happy birthday to Broncos owner Pat Bowlen, who was born 74 years ago today in Prairie du Chien, Wis. Pretty good life. Not sure there's been an NFL owner with a greater body work with his team and league. #9sports

Barnwell has been doing columns on five moves each team should make this off season, and he's up to the AFC West today. He advocates the Broncos going after Cousins:

If Cousins wants to play in Denver, the Broncos will pay up. What would a Cousins deal look like? Assuming the 29-year-old craves the stability Washington failed to offer him, the Broncos are probably looking at a minimum of five years and possibly a six-year contract. Elway tends to avoid larger signing bonuses and prefers roster bonuses early in contracts for cap purposes, but given how massive the Cousins extension is likely to be, the Broncos might not have much of a choice.

There's no way to make a Cousins deal cheap, but here's how the Broncos could frame a six-year, $180-million deal with a $40 million signing bonus and an even $100 million payable over the first three years, all of which would be practically guaranteed:
Year Base
Salary Signing
Bonus Roster
Bonus Workout
Bonus Cap
Hit
2018 $3.5 million $8 million $12.5 million $150,000 $24.15 million
2019 $9 million $8 million $12 million $350,000 $29.35 million
2020 $15 million $8 million $7 million $500,000 $30.5 million
2021 $18 million $8 million $5 million $600,000 $31.6 million
2022 $21 million $8 million $5 million $750,000 $34.75 million
2023 $27.5 million $0 $1.35 million $800,000 $29.65 million
Totals $94 million $40 million $42.85 million $3.15 million $180 million

He also says, among other things, to pick up Ray's fifth year option. Any interesting tidbit in there on Barrett though - I think we all assume they'll tender and keep Barrett but he wasn't really as productive as I thought he was:

The Denver pass rush was down across the board in 2017. Von Miller wasn't as productive as he had been the previous year. DeMarcus Ware retired, and while that opened up a role for Shaquil Barrett in the pass-rush rotation, Barrett only mustered four sacks and 12 knockdowns despite playing 67.2 percent of the defensive snaps.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/page...-bill-barnwell

Signing Cousins would be so exciting. Imagine if he was the real deal and we got our guy for the next five to seven years.

Originally Posted by Von Kinger

Signing Cousins would be so exciting. Imagine if he was the real deal and we got our guy for the next five to seven years.

Agreed, but flip side is the possibility of mortgaging the future for a middle tier QB.

Big dick gotta style - sign that boy.


Ibarely know what that means.

Originally Posted by Von Kinger

Big dick gotta style - sign that boy.


Ibarely know what that means.

I don't think I want to touch that three inch pole...

Originally Posted by Tned

Agreed, but flip side is the possibility of mortgaging the future for a middle tier QB.

The alternative of not getting Cousins? Mediocrity, rebuilding, wasted time with some of our top performers on D, etc.

I think passing on Cousins is a bigger risk. He might not be the best QB out there, but if he's above average he's a LOT better than we've had lately.

Originally Posted by Davii

The alternative of not getting Cousins? Mediocrity, rebuilding, wasted time with some of our top performers on D, etc.

I think passing on Cousins is a bigger risk. He might not be the best QB out there, but if he's above average he's a LOT better than we've had lately.

Maybe, but he'll be the highest paid QB in the history of the league. Is he the best? Is he even top 5? Top 10?

I'm torn on this. It's possible the team could win now with Cousins (even with the deep cuts the team will have to make to afford him), but it's not a given at will come at huge cost. It might be that for the highest contract in NFL history that Cousins is good enough to all the Broncos to get close every year, but never beyond that, which as we've seen in the past is a type of purgatory.

The flip side is drafting a QB in the top five is no guarantee and we might have a bust and then be right back to the drawing board in a year or so.

Originally Posted by Tned

Maybe, but he'll be the highest paid QB in the history of the league. Is he the best? Is he even top 5? Top 10?

I'm torn on this. It's possible the team could win now with Cousins (even with the deep cuts the team will have to make to afford him), but it's not a given at will come at huge cost. It might be that for the highest contract in NFL history that Cousins is good enough to all the Broncos to get close every year, but never beyond that, which as we've seen in the past is a type of purgatory.

The flip side is drafting a QB in the top five is no guarantee and we might have a bust and then be right back to the drawing board in a year or so.

Every QB that gets a deal is the new highest paid QB in the league. Will he still be the highest paid next year? No. Definitely not in two years. It's just how it goes. I don't think there's a better FA option, and there's definitely no can't miss draft star that we can nab. Short of the Colts making Luck available Cousins seems to be our best bet.