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    You guys beat me to the Hernandez post. If I wasn't so high on Hernandez I'd be all in on Nelson at 5 providing we sign cousins. But my hope is that Hernandez is there in the late first or early second and we dumped a couple of pics to draft him and then we can go with a tackle in the first. Nobody can convince me that there's a huge drop-off from Nelson to Hernandez. I think it's the best guard combo that the draft has seen since I've followed closely. Literally the only knock on Hernandez this year was competition. As stated before he's known as a 340-pound road grader in the Run game but he gave up fewer pressures than Nelson this year. So the big question was how does he stand up against legit NFL caliber talent and he answered that by dominating at the Senior Bowl. Factor in the connection to our new o line coach and I think you can see the writing on the wall. The big problem is that most of these draft sites that have him as an early second-rounder really aren't taking into consideration all of the buzz that he's generated in the past 3 weeks.

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    I'd still take Nelson. Hernandez will be lucky if he makes it out of the first round. Is McClinchy as good as he is without Nelson next to him? I believe Nelson is a player who makes the guy next to him better.

    Is Hernandez as good playing on a Notre Dame team, or a big conference team?

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    If Denver didn’t need a QB he’d be a slam dunk pick at #5, even better if you could move down and still guarantee to get him.

    Bolles, Nelson and Oregon RT Tyrell Crosby would make the nastiest OL in the league.
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    Draft
    1st round— Cooper Dejean CB
    2nd round— Jack Sawyer OLB
    3rd round— Will Shipley RB
    4th round— Ricky Pearsall WR
    5th round— Ladd McKonkey WR
    6th round— Cash Jones RB
    7th round— Carson Steele RB

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davii View Post
    I'm sold on Cousins. He's thrown for over 4000 yard each year the last 3, he's averaged 28 TDs, and 12 interceptions each of those years as well. This is on a team that doesn't have the offensive talent at the skill positions we do and has just as bad a line (he was sacked 41 times this year). So, he gets sacked 41 times, still throws for over 4k yards, 27 TDs against 13 INTs, and really led his team.

    I wish we had a guy like that. Seriously, I think Elway can make one hell of a pitch to him. He's going to be the highest paid QB, that's how it works now. If Elway offers him a nice package (If even a little less than others can, as long as the guarantees are similar) and tells him we're investing HEAVILY in the offensive line this offseason... I mean, that's pretty attractive from his standpoint. Our defense was still top 5, he would solve our biggest need, and a promise from John that we're going to have one of the best lines in the league?

    Sign me up.
    Highest paid player in the entire history of the NFL, that’s how it works (true) but that doesn’t mean it’s not obscenely stupid.

    Btw, a promise from a GM means what, exactly? The highest paid Player in NFL history plus the highest defense of player in the league almost precludes creating a top OL out of the current shithole, especially for a GM in a slump like this GM.
    Last edited by Simple Jaded; 02-03-2018 at 06:50 PM.
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    Draft
    1st round— Cooper Dejean CB
    2nd round— Jack Sawyer OLB
    3rd round— Will Shipley RB
    4th round— Ricky Pearsall WR
    5th round— Ladd McKonkey WR
    6th round— Cash Jones RB
    7th round— Carson Steele RB

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    Quote Originally Posted by HORSEPOWER 56 View Post
    The real question, especially if you’re talking about #5 overall pick, is who has the potential to be the most impactful player. Is it Nelson? A guard, who while he might be all-pro caliber is still just a Guard. Nobody takes Guards at #5 for a reason. Is it Barkley? The guy looks like another elite back in the Zeke Elliot mold. Is he worth it? How about Chubb (the pass rusher not the GA RB)? Line him up across from Von Miller and watch out. Is he worth it?

    Or, do we grab the best remaining QB? A lot will be answered before the draft if we sign Cousins. There’s no way we draft a QB in the first if we sign Cousins but any other stopgap vet leaves that door open.

    While Nelson may be awesome and might be safe, unless he can play LT, he’s just not worth the #5 overall pick, IMO. He’s a guard. Leary and McGovern will be fine next year.
    Bolles at LT
    Nelson at LG
    McGovern at C
    Leary at RG
    And a new RT

    Paradis is JAG, it’s erroneous at this point to suggest you can’t improve there too.

    Btw, Chubb isn’t a dynamic player, unless he can play 3-4 DE he’s not a good fit.
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    Draft
    1st round— Cooper Dejean CB
    2nd round— Jack Sawyer OLB
    3rd round— Will Shipley RB
    4th round— Ricky Pearsall WR
    5th round— Ladd McKonkey WR
    6th round— Cash Jones RB
    7th round— Carson Steele RB

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northman View Post
    I like Brown and Rankin a lot.
    Rankin can actually play C, too, just sayin.
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    Sign Garbage Minshew.

    Draft
    1st round— Cooper Dejean CB
    2nd round— Jack Sawyer OLB
    3rd round— Will Shipley RB
    4th round— Ricky Pearsall WR
    5th round— Ladd McKonkey WR
    6th round— Cash Jones RB
    7th round— Carson Steele RB

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaded View Post
    Rankin can actually play C, too, just sayin.
    Forget the safe pick - go trade up for Rosen and be a real god damn man!

    Somehow I hold you responsible for our QB outcome, ya bitch.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jaded View Post
    Y’all know I’m an OL Groupie but I think Jeudy is going to be worth missing out on a T, knock on wood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by underrated29 View Post
    Why? We badly need another pass rusher. Von only had 10 sacks this year as he was double and triple teamed. We were also down in turnover and ints because we couldnt get a good pass rush. There are plenty of G and T in this draft. Obviously Nelson is an outlier but aside from him the drop off in G from say 2nd rd to 5th rnd is not nearly as severe as the drop off from the top DE to a 3rd rd DE.
    Draft Nelson and watch Key fall in our lap. Not a fan of Chubb (the DE, Love the RB).
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    Draft
    1st round— Cooper Dejean CB
    2nd round— Jack Sawyer OLB
    3rd round— Will Shipley RB
    4th round— Ricky Pearsall WR
    5th round— Ladd McKonkey WR
    6th round— Cash Jones RB
    7th round— Carson Steele RB

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    Quote Originally Posted by Von Kinger View Post
    Forget the safe pick - go trade up for Rosen and be a real god damn man!

    Somehow I hold you responsible for our QB outcome, ya bitch.
    I don’t blame you, I was the one who liked all our QB’s. Still do. I can’t quit them. They complete me.
    "Tuning ... into each other ... lift all higher”
    “I’m just different!”

    Sign Garbage Minshew.

    Draft
    1st round— Cooper Dejean CB
    2nd round— Jack Sawyer OLB
    3rd round— Will Shipley RB
    4th round— Ricky Pearsall WR
    5th round— Ladd McKonkey WR
    6th round— Cash Jones RB
    7th round— Carson Steele RB

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaded View Post
    I don’t blame you, I was the one who liked all our QB’s. Still do. I can’t quit them. They complete me.
    I’m leaning towards Bridgewater on a one year “Prove it” deal, partially because I think Rosen/Allen are gone by #5 and partially because I hate white players.
    "Tuning ... into each other ... lift all higher”
    “I’m just different!”

    Sign Garbage Minshew.

    Draft
    1st round— Cooper Dejean CB
    2nd round— Jack Sawyer OLB
    3rd round— Will Shipley RB
    4th round— Ricky Pearsall WR
    5th round— Ladd McKonkey WR
    6th round— Cash Jones RB
    7th round— Carson Steele RB

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaded View Post
    I’m leaning towards Bridgewater on a one year “Prove it” deal, partially because I think Rosen/Allen are gone by #5 and partially because I hate white players.
    We trading up!!!!!!!!!
    Quote Originally Posted by Jaded View Post
    Y’all know I’m an OL Groupie but I think Jeudy is going to be worth missing out on a T, knock on wood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Von Kinger View Post
    We trading up!!!!!!!!!
    You could do both, probably should do both.

    Bridgewater and Rosen/Allen, although I doubt Rosen needs a year to develop.
    Last edited by Simple Jaded; 02-03-2018 at 08:26 PM.
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    Sign Garbage Minshew.

    Draft
    1st round— Cooper Dejean CB
    2nd round— Jack Sawyer OLB
    3rd round— Will Shipley RB
    4th round— Ricky Pearsall WR
    5th round— Ladd McKonkey WR
    6th round— Cash Jones RB
    7th round— Carson Steele RB

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    Rosen needs to learn on the job. You don't retard a brilliant man's learning process by making him hold a clipboard.

    You let him learn to be a God.
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    Y’all know I’m an OL Groupie but I think Jeudy is going to be worth missing out on a T, knock on wood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Von Kinger View Post
    Rosen needs to learn on the job. You don't retard a brilliant man's learning process by making him hold a clipboard.

    You let him learn to be a God.
    He’s by far the most bestest ideal option, so... I hate to break it to you ... but ...are you sitting down?
    "Tuning ... into each other ... lift all higher”
    “I’m just different!”

    Sign Garbage Minshew.

    Draft
    1st round— Cooper Dejean CB
    2nd round— Jack Sawyer OLB
    3rd round— Will Shipley RB
    4th round— Ricky Pearsall WR
    5th round— Ladd McKonkey WR
    6th round— Cash Jones RB
    7th round— Carson Steele RB

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaded View Post
    He’s by far the most bestest ideal option, so... I hate to break it to you ... but ...are you sitting down?
    Cleveland will take the Howlizter arm. We move up. We get Mr. UCLA.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jaded View Post
    Y’all know I’m an OL Groupie but I think Jeudy is going to be worth missing out on a T, knock on wood.

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