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    Hopefully for a different team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Al Wilson 4 Mayor View Post
    Brandon Marshall is an above average player. He doesn’t suck.
    I disagree.
    Let's Rid3!!!!

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    Booker and CJ were best two RB. No question in preseason and TC. Charles barely made team. Henderson was just low man on totem pole.
    Booker is just a third-down pass catcher. Charles and Henderson deserved more play than they got. That's on the coaches (and maybe Elway). Also, Sloter should have been the #2 QB on opening day (and, I don't wanna hear any of that crap about needing a vet. Osweiler shouldn't have been signed. Elway probably had something to do with that).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawgdriver View Post
    That ish is hard!
    MO grew up on the mean streets, he is a tough mother. . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by dogfish View Post
    MO grew up on the mean streets, he is a tough mother. . .
    Tougher than covering a TE in the NFL?
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    Brandon Marshall has led the team in tackles for the last 15 seasons. He is second only to Wesley Woodward in all time greatness.

    I have no idea what i am talking about - but i don't think Marshall sucks, he is not Luke Keuchly, but i think for the last 4/5 years he has been a solid player

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    Quote Originally Posted by BroncoWave View Post
    The highest paid player is going to have the highest expectations. You seem pissed off that we aren't evicerating guys like Todd Davis, but did anyone expect him to be a world beater?
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    Miller is the highest-graded edge defender this season with a 95.7 overall grade, and he leads the position with a 95.1 run-defense grade. Miller tops all edge defenders with 79 total pressures, and is second with 31 run stops (plays graded as a “win” for the defense).
    So, he's the highest-graded edge defender (a premium++ position) in the league. What more is he supposed to do?
    *The statements above are my opinions, unless they are links, because then they are links, which wouldn't make them my opinions, and I suppose stats aren't necessarily opinion, but they are certainly presented to support an opinion. Proceed accordingly.

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    I don't think Brandon Marshall sucks....I just wish we had kept Danny Trevathan over him. Danny is a beast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MOtorboat View Post
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    So, he's the highest-graded edge defender (a premium++ position) in the league. What more is he supposed to do?
    I get that, but from the naked eye he didn't look as dominant this season, and a lot of people are going to base their opinion on what they watched. The advanced metrics definitely help his argument, but they still didn't equate to the type of production we're used to seeing from him on a year to year basis.

    I don't know why you take it so personally when anyone is even slightly critical of one of our star players.

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    Bill Belichick was 5-11 in his first season as coach of the Pats, and started off 0-2 in 2001 (1-3). Then Mo Lewis ruined the NFL by injuring Drew Bledsoe.



    Anyway.....you all get the point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MOtorboat View Post
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    So, he's the highest-graded edge defender (a premium++ position) in the league. What more is he supposed to do?
    Go to BW's home and provide him "services" apparently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BroncoWave View Post
    I get that, but from the naked eye he didn't look as dominant this season, and a lot of people are going to base their opinion on what they watched. The advanced metrics definitely help his argument, but they still didn't equate to the type of production we're used to seeing from him on a year to year basis.

    I don't know why you take it so personally when anyone is even slightly critical of one of our star players.
    He looked fine, what was missing was the supporting cast. Look at our team in 2015 and look at Jacksonville in 2017. What do they have in common? (aside from the absurd amount of sacks)

    Malik Jackson

    That's what is missing in 2017. We don't have Malik collapsing the pocket and pushing the QB into the arms of the edge rusher. We need to find someone like Malik who can just destroy the pocket and keep QB's from stepping up into it. That is 100% the reason for the incorrectly perceived drop off in Miller's play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valar Morghulis View Post
    but i don't think Marshall sucks, he is not Luke Keuchly, but i think for the last 4/5 years he has been a solid player
    Thats the crux of it. Marshall is a solid guy but not a difference maker which is what Denver needs. I wouldnt get rid of Marshall but he would be the kind of guy you could spell a much better LB with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7DnBrnc53 View Post
    Booker is just a third-down pass catcher.
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    Nostratimmy was right again. All hail nostratimmy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Timmy! View Post
    I don't think so. We must not be watching the same player.

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