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    Quote Originally Posted by dogfish View Post
    they're not going to do that-- don't sweat it. . . it's harmless fun for posters to speculate about kelly, but john elway isn't rolling another late round schlub out there as his starter after how this year went. . . not happening. . .
    Preach. And mostly every team has a project QB. Our issue is we had three.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freyaka View Post
    I'm not a Kelly guy, but I think the key fact with Kelly, pre injury, he was a projected first round pick. Injury and personality issues are the only reason he went last in the draft. That's a big distinction from a QB who was a 7th round QB picked the in 7th round.
    meh! i don't buy it. . . QB is the most important position in sports, and the hardest to find. . . if anybody thought this guy could play, someone would have taken him in the third or fourth round at the absolute latest. . . come on, dallas spent a top 40 pick on jaylen smith knowing full well he'd need a redshirt season and possibly more-- and he's a freakin' linebacker. . .

    i know you guys just wanna find something to be hopeful about, but i think you're really reaching here. . .

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    I dont have a problem with the notion of Chad Kelly being the possible future. The ONLY way this is going to work is the Broncos will need to make plans to land a veteran next year and have that veteran mentor Kelly.

    No other scenario makes any sense. Meaning, if the Broncos draft a QB in the first round YET AGAIN, that is it for Kelly. He will have NO real shot at being the starting QB.

    Personally, I think Alex Smith would be an interesting signing. Yes, perhaps Eli Manning, but he would require giving up a draft pick and his salary is an issue. However, Alex Smith should come a bit a cheaper. Plus, playing for the Chiefs, there is good information that could be shared about them. If you notice teams often get players through FA from divisional rivals for the purpose. The Pats are actually quite infamous for doing such things.

    I still cannot believe how good of a season Alex Smith is having this season while the Chiefs are losing. Has anyone noticed?

    http://www.espn.com/nfl/statistics/p...rterbackRating

    Look at that.

    I am hoping that is way they go. That way they could have a few options with their draft position, which will be quite high. Someone will want to trade up to get Mayfield. They could get a number of picks that could address other real problems on this team.

    Like some of these ILB prospects
    http://walterfootball.com/draft2018ILB.php

    Anyway, that is the way to go IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShaneFalco View Post
    i wouldnt.

    I want Chad as starter with a high round OL pick.
    Its a possible way to go but i agree with Doggy that i highly doubt JE puts his eggs all in that basket. Kelly may have the athleticism and talent but he still has other problems that could hold him back and we've been down that road before with a QB who didnt have the mental aptitude to succeed in the NFL. If Denver managed to get a guy like Brees or Manning and then wanted Kelly to be the #2 or #3 than i can go with your thinking. But i dont see Denver getting a vet of that calibur at this juncture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freyaka View Post
    I'm not a Kelly guy, but I think the key fact with Kelly, pre injury, he was a projected first round pick. Injury and personality issues are the only reason he went last in the draft. That's a big distinction from a QB who was a 7th round QB picked the in 7th round.
    I never saw him projected as a first round pick. People said he had first round potential, but due to his character concerns, I never saw anyone legitimate actually predict he'd go in the first round, even before his injury.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BroncoWave View Post
    I never saw him projected as a first round pick. People said he had first round potential, but due to his character concerns, I never saw anyone legitimate actually predict he'd go in the first round, even before his injury.
    Would you rather this team draft Baker Mayfield or get Alex Smith and trade down and gather picks from a team that really wants that Big XII head case?

    Cause right now the way it is projected (as of now) the Broncos are in line for Mayfield. Are we all that impressed with Darnold or Rosen right now?

    Or is it better to get a veteran (granted only a few veterans would do) and have Kelly develop behind that veteran? Are we that high on those rookies?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Broncoknight30 View Post
    Would you rather this team draft Baker Mayfield or get Alex Smith and trade down and gather picks from a team that really wants that Big XII head case?

    Cause right now the way it is projected (as of now) the Broncos are in line for Mayfield. Are we all that impressed with Darnold or Rosen right now?

    Or is it better to get a veteran (granted only a few veterans would do) and have Kelly develop behind that veteran? Are we that high on those rookies?
    I’d prefer none of these things happening.

    Also, Baker Mayfield will probably not be the third, or fourth, or fifth, quarterback off the board.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MOtorboat View Post
    I’d prefer none of these things happening.

    Also, Baker Mayfield will probably not be the third, or fourth, or fifth, quarterback off the board.
    who is, then? top three is loosely projected as rosen, darnold, and lamar jackson ATM? then who, josh allen? you think mayfield falls to the middle rounds?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MOtorboat View Post
    Feels like kicking the can down the road.
    I was thinking the same thing. "Maybe this guy!" "Oh, no! Not him! Maybe THIS guy!"
    "Oh no! Not him!" "Maybe THIS guy!" It's Kelly! The "Gunslinger!"

    For about 5 minutes until he appears in a game and gets schooled by a veteran DB who picks him off. Then it's "ARGH! He sucks! Three picks! Get rid of him!"

    They will develop him of course, and maybe. But a better choice is to go up in the draft and get a franchise QB, because the top 5 is where they are usually drafted. There's hardly a QB in the NFL who was a 7th round pick who is a stud franchise QB today. The number of times that happens can be counted on the fingers of one hand.

    So, keep Kelly, ditch Paxton, and draft a QB and sign a veteran FA who will start until the rookie is ready. Then in 2 years maybe. Maybe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BroncoWave View Post
    I never saw him projected as a first round pick. People said he had first round potential, but due to his character concerns, I never saw anyone legitimate actually predict he'd go in the first round, even before his injury.
    This is the trap. Just because he had "potential" to be a 1st round pick - IF only he were not a rock-head. IF only he was healthy. So people assume that if he's healthy, he's a first round pick.

    No, top 5 franchise first round picks are taken there because they prove it on the field. Kelly didn't. Maybe he would have if he wasn't distracted by off-field problems, but maybe not too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BroncoWave View Post
    I never saw him projected as a first round pick. People said he had first round potential, but due to his character concerns, I never saw anyone legitimate actually predict he'd go in the first round, even before his injury.
    Mayock had him going in the first at one point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dogfish View Post
    who is, then? top three is loosely projected as rosen, darnold, and lamar jackson ATM? then who, josh allen? you think mayfield falls to the middle rounds?
    Providing the Underclassmen come out, I expect the order to be Darnold/Rosen, Allen, Jackson and then maybe Mayfield. The Oklahoma State kid (blanking on his name), Browning and Luke Falk (Wazzu) could all be taken before Mayfield. I think Mayfield will look the least impressive in workouts/combine of those eight guys and while a few people say he’s played his way into the first round (and don’t get me wrong he’s had a very prolific season), his stock might drop a little from where it is now, which is clearly the highest it’s been. Then again, it takes just one team to fall in love with a guy.
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    I haven't really followed Mayfield. What's his issue? It seems OU QBs play damn good college ball, but fizzle out in the NFL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    I haven't really followed Mayfield. What's his issue? It seems OU QBs play damn good college ball, but fizzle out in the NFL.
    Try all Big XII QBs, where the defenses use pillows to defend offenses. They have not played defense in that conference since 2000.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dogfish View Post
    who is, then? top three is loosely projected as rosen, darnold, and lamar jackson ATM? then who, josh allen? you think mayfield falls to the middle rounds?
    Too many QB hungry teams for that to happen. Mayfield doesn't leave round 1.
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