Thread: Taylor to handle PR duties the rest of the season

Originally Posted by Davii

No, he said "kill to have", not "kill yourself if we had". See the difference there?

tebow would have this team winning the afc west right now

Originally Posted by Hawgdriver

Plummer took his team to the AFCCG and was a Ngata's ass away from a championship...Shanahan seriously misread the situation and lost this chance at another championship..

Do I begrudge Plummer his pout-a-thon in 2006? Yes. But Shanny had to know he would get that. He should have given it another year with a solution to the core issue holding the team back: DT.

I think Shanny read the situation perfectly - with the exception of Jay Cutler's character. Plummer was propped up by Shanahan's zone blocking scheme which lent itself particularly well to getting Jake out of the pocket and playing to his strengths. He was not a good pocket passer, nor a particularly accurate thrower. It was a minor miracle that we had the season we did and went to the AFCG and Shanny correctly read that it was an unsustainable model moving forward.

His move was further validated when Plummer proceeded to pout and cut off his nose to spite his face by retiring. Good riddance.

Originally Posted by ShaneFalco

tebow would have this team winning the afc west right now

Is that why he was out of the league in three years? He was too good?

Originally Posted by Buff

I think Shanny read the situation perfectly - with the exception of Jay Cutler's character. Plummer was propped up by Shanahan's zone blocking scheme which lent itself particularly well to getting Jake out of the pocket and playing to his strengths. He was not a good pocket passer, nor a particularly accurate thrower. It was a minor miracle that we had the season we did and went to the AFCG and Shanny correctly read that it was an unsustainable model moving forward.

His move was further validated when Plummer proceeded to pout and cut off his nose to spite his face by retiring. Good riddance.

7-4 to 8-8 and missing the playoffs. He read it perfectly.

Oh, and two more season collapses to boot! Perfectly.

Originally Posted by Buff

I think Shanny read the situation perfectly - with the exception of Jay Cutler's character. Plummer was propped up by Shanahan's zone blocking scheme which lent itself particularly well to getting Jake out of the pocket and playing to his strengths. He was not a good pocket passer, nor a particularly accurate thrower. It was a minor miracle that we had the season we did and went to the AFCG and Shanny correctly read that it was an unsustainable model moving forward.

His move was further validated when Plummer proceeded to pout and cut off his nose to spite his face by retiring. Good riddance.

No, his move backfired and sunk the franchise. With hindsight we can say with near certainty that the correct decision was to double down on Jake and bolster the D.

I agree with you that Plummer's .700+ win percentage with Shanny was impressive.

Originally Posted by Hawgdriver

No, his move backfired and sunk the franchise. With hindsight we can say with near certainty that the correct decision was to double down on Jake and bolster the D.

I agree with you that Plummer's .700+ win percentage with Shanny was impressive.

We are in full agreement that not bolstering the D sunk the franchise.

Originally Posted by MOtorboat

Is that why he was out of the league in three years? He was too good?

Nah, it was because top tier talent like Trevor Siemian and Paxton Lynch came along...

Originally Posted by wayninja

Nah, it was because top tier talent like Trevor Siemian and Paxton Lynch came along...

And they're a better option than Tebow. There's a reason Tebow is on TV.

plummer didn't have the work ethic to get us to the mountaintop. . . you can argue with the guys we brought in after him, but trying to find the guy who can get you there is the right choice. . .

Originally Posted by dogfish

plummer didn't have the work ethic to get us to the mountaintop. . . you can argue with the guys we brought in after him, but trying to find the guy who can get you there is the right choice. . .

Work ethic is an odd way to spell defensive tackle.

Originally Posted by MOtorboat

And they're a better option than Tebow. There's a reason Tebow is on TV.

LMAO. It certainly feels like they are.

Head coaches are only wrong about QB's before they draft them.

Originally Posted by Dreadnought

Right. Its no debate, really. When it comes to NFL football I know that if I have Buff, Dogfish, and Slick on my side I must be right. Maybe only G-Money is a stronger source

I'll take mo over any of those losers!

Originally Posted by Broncoknight30

When shanahan traded UP to get poopy pants, that was shanahan destroying Plummers confidence. In 2005, he threw only 7 ints and was in the pro bowl.

He was still relatively young, and he probably had 5 good years left. The Broncos losing Kubiak hurt them, along with Plummers confidence being wrecked.

That 2006 season was the anomaly with Plummer as a Bronco. He produced and consistently made plays and led the team to the play offs.

Plummer is one more plank in my argument of Kubiak as one of the all-time great coaches.

Originally Posted by dogfish

yea, but tubby is an idiot-- nobody pays any attention to what he thinks. . .

Excuse me? Nobody hated Cok6 more than me. NOBODY!