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    Watching the Rose Bowl I saw Johnny Manziel - I don't know if that's fair or rooted in any rational analysis. I just have a hard time seeing his skill set transition cleanly into being an effective pocket passer. His strengths are more around improvisation, which is helpful at the pro level but only if you can be effective from the pocket first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buff View Post
    Watching the Rose Bowl I saw Johnny Manziel - I don't know if that's fair or rooted in any rational analysis. I just have a hard time seeing his skill set transition cleanly into being an effective pocket passer. His strengths are more around improvisation, which is helpful at the pro level but only if you can be effective from the pocket first.
    Against a stout defense, he had little choice but to improvise in that game, but the kid plays behind maybe the best OL in NCAA this year. He's been really good as a pocket passer all year. In fact, having all day to throw this season is one of the things that concerns me about him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoachChaz View Post
    Against a stout defense, he had little choice but to improvise in that game, but the kid plays behind maybe the best OL in NCAA this year. He's been really good as a pocket passer all year. In fact, having all day to throw this season is one of the things that concerns me about him.
    You like him at 5?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Northman View Post
    I think his obnoxious trash talking can lead to trouble. Thats what made the Georgia game so fun, it brought him back down to earth. But it wasnt the first time that he has run into issues like that (grabbing his crotch on camera).
    Let's be honest, who wouldn't do that??

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    Quote Originally Posted by MOtorboat View Post
    I highly doubt Oklahoma was a 3-9 team without Mayfield.
    You disagree. Shocking. We'll agree to disagree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziggy View Post
    You disagree. Shocking. We'll agree to disagree.
    Oklahoma hasn't been under .500 and missed a bowl in 20 seasons. It wasn't going to happen this year, either. They have the most talent in the conference year after year and implying they'd only win three games assumes they'd lose to one of Kansas, Baylor, UTEP or Tulane.

    With all due respect, that's patently absurd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawgdriver View Post
    You like him at 5?
    I'd prefer Cousins, Keenum, Darnold, but if none of those options are available, then I'd take him at 5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoachChaz View Post
    I'd prefer Cousins, Keenum, Darnold, but if none of those options are available, then I'd take him at 5.
    Only QB I would take at 5 is darnold. Others I am not sure about. Rosen and Mayfield top 10 though. Browns giants Broncos and jets are top 10 who need a QB.

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    Still don't know why we as fans would not want to see what Chad Kelly has. I know to many that a 7th rounder is against ALL odds. Meaning, I think the best scenario is to bring in the best veteran (preferably Alex Smith for a variety of reasons) and try developing Kelly.


    I mean Kelly in the same conference as Dak Prescott, had better stats, including rushing yardage. I know his problem is his attitude and that more than anything was the main reason he fell.

    It seems he has been doing the right things. I also happen to think him being surrounded by two HoFers in his uncle and Elway (along with a decent veteran) could shape all of that. I could be wrong here, but none of those rookies really do it for me. A lot of hype imo. Rosen is out of reach, and so it comes down to Mayfield or Darnold....I guess.

    Again, I would rather them either draft the BEST ILB in the first round (which ought to be a real stud at 5) and draft the best RT in the second round. Again, Right Tackles are NOT drafted in the first round. They typically get drafted in the 2nd...at the highest.

    Besides, the Broncos are going to NEED to get a veteran anyway, even if they draft a rookie in the first round. All of the QBs on this roster have NO real experience. Which btw, was yet another problem with this team.

    Bottom line is I want to see what Chad Kelly can do, and that is not going to happen unless it is under that scenario.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Broncoknight30 View Post
    Still don't know why we as fans would not want to see what Chad Kelly has.
    From my understanding Kelly will still be on the team but he will have to earn the right to start if he can do that. But Denver cant go into next season without a backup plan. If they cant land Cousins than they will have to draft a QB with more promise than what a 7th might have. Its up to Kelly to prove that he has worth and that he can win the job no matter who is in front of him. But, with Brock, Siemian, and Lynch in front of him im not sure how much room will be on the roster for him. I seriously doubt that Denver lets a previous 1st rounder walk (although i wouldnt care honestly) and Siemian and Brock have more experience on the field than Kelly at this juncture. But this is no different than the Zac Dysert's and Kyle Sloter's of the world. People get way to enamored with guys who will always be clip board holders. The Tom Brady's of the world are very very rare.

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    We would like to see Kelly as well but can't go into the season saying we have a 30+ year old vet and our 7th round pick is our future.

    It would be wonderful if Kelly is one of the draft surprises and turns into a franchise guy, but can't go into the season with that expectation when he hasn't even thrown a ball in an NFL live game yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Broncoknight30 View Post

    Again, I would rather them either draft the BEST ILB in the first round (which ought to be a real stud at 5) and draft the best RT in the second round. Again, Right Tackles are NOT drafted in the first round. They typically get drafted in the 2nd...at the highest.
    As far as this goes, if we plan on using the #5 pick for a tackle, I'd think we would draft someone like McGlinchey from ND and bumping Bolles over to RT. Still plenty of options out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Broncoknight30 View Post
    Still don't know why we as fans would not want to see what Chad Kelly has.
    We do.
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    I was against the pax pick. Was against him before we picked him. I mocked kelly to us and I like him. I do want to see what he has. The dude put up better numbers than most of the QBs in this draft against tougher competition. Dude is a cocky mofo but I think he can play.

    For me, landing kirk while Kelly gets the ropes is the best way to go. I hope he will succeed and if he does then we dont have to burn a pick on a Qb.


    That said Rosen is still IMO the absolute #1 QB in this draft. I do not understand why he isnt getting praise like Winston and Mariota. I so far like Rosen better than both those guys I mentioned.
    Draft mode on:

    Shaq barrett not matched (2nd rd pick gained)
    Sua Cravens traded for (future 3rd)
    Trade back with Buffalo (12, 21, 2nd rd pick)
    (We have 4 -2nd rd picks)

    12. Derwin James -DB
    21. Will Hernandez- OG
    31. (trade with pats 2 2nd rdrs) OT Mike Mglichney
    2a. Soney Michel- RB
    2b. Billy Price- C
    3a. Equinamis St Brown- wr
    3b. Tarvaris Mcfadden -CB
    5. Antonio Calloway - wr

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