Thread: Broncos fire OC Mike McCoy

Originally Posted by Tned

If McCoy was made interim HC, then the offensive scheme, which has failed miserably, would still be what the Broncos are running. He wouldn't have allowed Musgrave to switch to his own.

Okay. The main problem would be gone so I could live with that. VJ is the worst HC in the NFL, he is a markedly worse HC than McCoy was for the Chargers.

Originally Posted by arapaho2

McCoy sucked...he sucked with tebow... and he sucks now

get over it

Good rebuttal.

Originally Posted by chazoe60

Good rebuttal.

It hit all the key points in a brief, but accurate manner.

Originally Posted by Freyaka

It hit all the key points in a brief, but accurate manner.

I am starting to agree with you, but we will soon see. Meaning, let's not be too emphatic by this declaration. Manning had nothing but extremely good things to say about him.

You could be right.

Originally Posted by chazoe60

Okay. The main problem would be gone so I could live with that. VJ is the worst HC in the NFL, he is a markedly worse HC than McCoy was for the Chargers.

At this time, I can't really disagree with your take on VJ. I think at times he's looked lost on the sideline and he's definitely learning on the job. Will he learn enough to be a viable HC before he's fired here? I'm not sure.

He's made bad in game decisions. I can't agree with him continuing to run Mckenzie out there. So sick of the "good week of practice" comments. There is no question we are dealing with a rookie HC.

I can't agree that VJ is a bigger issue that McCoy, because the number one problem with the team is the offense, and that is squarely on McCoy. AS I said, if McCoy was made interim, then we would still have McCoy's offense, which is not working.

Good article re: Musgrave

https://www.milehighreport.com/2017/...roncos-offense

Originally Posted by BroncoJoe

Good article re: Musgrave

https://www.milehighreport.com/2017/...roncos-offense

Going by memory here, but when they were interviewing both Musgrave and McCoy in the offseason for the OC job, I believe the speculation was that if they went with Musgrave, it was an indication that they wanted to go with Lynch as the starter in '17, and if they went with McCoy, that it was an indication that Siemian would likely be the starter.

Obviously, there was still going to be a competition, but the thinking was that Musgrave's west coast philosophy would be better suited for Lynch's athleticism, and McCoy's complicated offense would be better suited to Siemian's quick release and more cerebral style.

I only bring that up, because it might be a situation where they really want to go with Lynch, but feel he could not succeed with McCoy's scheme (especially considering how much the whole offense and other QBs struggled) and that Lynch could succeed with Musgrave's scheme.

Just a thought.

So many of our coaches suck that it's hard to tell which one needs to get fired. I like McCoy but when we hired him back I seriously had a wtf moment. Don't any of you remember the frustration of him here the first time?

Word on the street is Gruden hasn't closed the door on coaching again. Pipe dream but I'd love to see him here next year. Good teams have quality Head Coaches and we are severely lacking that. VJ is just awful all around, he won't be here long.

McCoy didn’t assemble this offense, that’d be John Elway and he’s been criminally negligent at a number of positions for years. Forget about putting TS at a constant health risk, Elway’s RT’s have been single-handedly sending pass rushers to the ProBowl for 5 years and counting. They stubbornly stick with Garcia for God only knows what reason, he’s never had a viable backup C while the starting C hadn’t practiced in years because he shouldn’t have been playing. LT would be the weak link on any other line.

They brought in McCoy knowing he’s a 3-Wide adherent and then give him jackshit for a 3rd WR, they’ve brought in everybody but my fat ass to play TE and literally none of them were worth a shit. And to top it off they’ve had nothing but petulant brats and timid bed wetters posing as “leaders”.

This is John Elway’s mess.

Nobody is saying McCoy is a mastermind, I sincerely hope y’all didn’t think that that’s what you were getting.

#Scapegoat

To be fair, Watson didn't feel like a bad signing.

He hasn't lived up to expectations but at the time, it seemed like a decent signing.

Criminally negligent. LOL. Exaggerate much?

Originally Posted by Rick

To be fair, Watson didn't feel like a bad signing.

He hasn't lived up to expectations but at the time, it seemed like a decent signing.

not to me. . . quite a few of us assumed he would suck and/or get hurt, since that's all he's ever done. . . i don't think he's ever lasted a full year. . . he was a "bargain" signing, and we got what we paid for. . .

Originally Posted by BroncoJoe

Criminally negligent. LOL. Exaggerate much?

No more exaggeration that saying this offense is McCoy’s fault.

Originally Posted by Rick

To be fair, Watson didn't feel like a bad signing.

He hasn't lived up to expectations but at the time, it seemed like a decent signing.

Agreed and to make the case that Elway has done nothing is insane. Not every move pans out, but he replaced 2/3'rds of the Oline. Every team has holes, it's the coaches responsibility to work with the talent at hand and develop schemes to get the most out of them.

Elway has done nothing but fail at RT.