Thread: Broncos fire OC Mike McCoy

Originally Posted by VonDoom

We can dumb down our offense for our mental midget QB Lynch!

I think all of these coaches have sucked, so I can't complain about McCoy going. The biggest thing to me is that we seemed competent in two TE sets but every time we went three WR, we did nothing and often left our QB to get pummeled. If I can see that, McCoy should have too.

No doubt we could have used more creativity, but this could just as easily read as a critique on Elway and the front office...

How can we run multiple TE sets with a bunch of subpar TEs? I understand we should have matched the talent to the scheme more effectively - but we have no talent at OL or TE and that's going to make it difficult on any OC.

Also, it just seems silly to me that they're suggesting that his scheme is too complex for Paxton Lynch to succeed in it... McCoy won like 8 games in a row with Tebow! Not saying I'm against the move, because all of the coaches deserve to be fired arguably - but it feels like a classic scapegoating.

Originally Posted by Buff

but it feels like a classic scapegoating.

that's because it is a classic scapegoating. . . i expected to see this news this morning, they set it up with the leaks yesterday. . . and we're supposed to buy that it was all mccoy's fault, and forget about who hired him. . .

One down, one to go.

Originally Posted by dogfish

that's because it is a classic scapegoating. . . i expected to see this news this morning, they set it up with the leaks yesterday. . . and we're supposed to buy that it was all mccoy's fault, and forget about who hired him. . .

Yeah when I saw the Rappaport report "Sources say Broncos are frustrated by offensive scheme" I shook my damn head. No reason for anyone in power to leak that out unless they're CYA'ing.

Meanwhile Brandon Marshall with the epic twitter meltdown last night. Too much dysfunction for my tastes.

DENVER - Denver Broncos head coach Vance Joseph has fired offensive coordinator Mike McCoy.

McCoy was informed by Joseph on Monday he has been relieved of his duties. Joseph then promoted quarterbacks coach Bill Musgrave to offensive coordinator. Musgrave will call the offensive plays Sunday against the Oakland Raiders – one of several NFL teams he has previously served as offensive coordinator.

“I have a responsibility to do what’s best for our football team,'' Joseph said in a statement. "Although this wasn’t an easy decision, we needed to make this change. We have to play a more efficient brand of football offensively as we begin the final stretch of our season.''

Klint Kubiak, son of former Broncos head coach Gary Kubiak, has been promoted from offensive assistant/assistant quarterbacks coach to quarterbacks coach.

AND - interesting

Multiple players said while McCoy is a good coach and a great guy, he did have so many plays on his sheet, the offense didn’t practice all of them before he called them during the game.

full article - http://www.9news.com/sports/nfl/denv...ccoy/493327060

Originally Posted by Slick

Who fired him? Elway or Vance?

Let me explain how a puppet works. The puppeteer bends the puppet over, takes his hand and shoves it into a cavity in the puppet, then props the puppet back up and magically it starts to say and do things...

Originally Posted by G_Money

Siemian is a very smart man, but it's not like his grasp of our "complicated" offense helped him succeed. I don't care much how simple or complicated an offense is if it works - this offense was basically terrible. If they're even talking about taking a QB who was just on IR because of injuries and running a read-option with him, though, then the Broncos really are staffed with idiots. Maybe they meant RPO.

I would settle for a "two-progression, then run and slide" offense at this point.

I'm not sure it would be going from what we currently have to read option, but doing something different. I think these three tweets from Nick Jhabvala yesterday some up the "definition of insanity" that has been the Broncos offensive scheme.

https://twitter.com/NickiJhabvala/st...77521517203458

If they were calling plays that hadn't even been practiced that is also kind of telling.

Originally Posted by Rick

If they were calling plays that hadn't even been practiced that is also kind of telling.

It's flat out lunacy. It's so outside the realm of functional coaching that it's almost hard to believe.

Originally Posted by Buff

Meanwhile Brandon Marshall with the epic twitter meltdown last night. Too much dysfunction for my tastes.

What happened? I don't navigate twitter often, but didn't see any news or anything obvious.

Originally Posted by Rick

If they were calling plays that hadn't even been practiced that is also kind of telling.

I might have missed that. Was that stated someplace?

Originally Posted by Tned

I might have missed that. Was that stated someplace?

Second quote in Carol's post above.

Originally Posted by Rick

I seriously doubt it will be a read option similar to Tebow.

I made a post about that in another thread as a joke, but I really doubt that happens.

I imagine it would still be spread based, with some bootlegs, and just cutting down the reads and picking 1 side of the field or the other.

This is my assumption as well. Also, this terrifies me:

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Multiple sources said one concern regarding McCoy was his play-sheet had so much volume, plays were called during game that weren't practiced during week. Execution was a problem. 17 turnovers during 6-game skid. #9sports

Originally Posted by wayninja

Second quote in Carol's post above.

Thanks. I re-read that post three times, but only the top part, my brain was completely skipping over that second quote block.

Wow, that's bad if that's what he was doing. It's ok to have a massive play list, because then it can be a smorgasbord to choose from as you game plan the opponent, but then you need to practice your game plan and plays you might call leading into the week.

Maybe that explains some of what we've seen both with Trevor and Brock, where they had interceptions and incompletions when the WR ran the wrong route and other cases where the QB and receivers weren't on the same page.

It kinda sucks when Elway decides to leak this shit tho.