Thread: Broncos fire OC Mike McCoy

Originally Posted by Jaded

No more exaggeration that saying this offense is McCoy’s fault.

It is his fault. Zero adjustments to the "talent" (for lack of a better word) we were fielding.

Originally Posted by LawDog

You all don't understand the term scapegoating. In those scenarios, the blameless one takes the fall (i.e. all the sins were placed on the innocent goat who then got sacrificed). McCoy is far from blameless so stop claiming he's just a scapegoat. That's not to say that there isn't plenty of blame that lies with a lot of other folks.

I dont think that's the thought process here. He was just a small fraction of a larger problem. He put the offense in bad situations by not adjusting enough to what he had. Some guys belueve their scheme is above all and will continue no matter what. When the play fails, it was always someone else's fault.

Originally Posted by LawDog

You all don't understand the term scapegoating. In those scenarios, the blameless one takes the fall (i.e. all the sins were placed on the innocent goat who then got sacrificed). McCoy is far from blameless so stop claiming he's just a scapegoat. That's not to say that there isn't plenty of blame that lies with a lot of other folks.

Thanks for setting everyone straight, cugel...

"a person who is blamed for the wrongdoings, mistakes, or faults of others, especially for reasons of expediency."

The shoe fits.

Originally Posted by Jaded

No more exaggeration that saying this offense is McCoy’s fault.

Elway criminally negligent = Offensive production is McCoy's fault.

Yea, I can see how those are on par.

#AreYouSmarterThanAFifthGrader

Originally Posted by Tned

Elway criminally negligent = Offensive production is McCoy's fault.

Yea, I can see how those are on par.

#AreYouSmarterThanAFifthGrader

Because personnel has no impact on production.

Originally Posted by BroncoJoe

It is his fault. Zero adjustments to the "talent" (for lack of a better word) we were fielding.

Please, let’s not pretend we know an “adjustment” if it kicked us in the teeth.

Originally Posted by Buff

Thanks for setting everyone straight, cugel...

"a person who is blamed for the wrongdoings, mistakes, or faults of others, especially for reasons of expediency."

The shoe fits.

Ahhh, I think I'm seeing where you are going with this. It was actually Musgrave's offense and play calling, and VJ lied about it being McCoy so he could fire him, use him as a scapegoat and protect the guy he has under his thumb, Musgrave.

Ok, I can see where you are coming from now.

Originally Posted by Jaded

Because personnel has no impact on production.

I'm not sure why you would claim that personnel has no impact on production. That's a silly contention. Of course it does, but it's also incumbent on coordinators to devise schemes to maximize the production from the talent on the team.

Originally Posted by Jaded

Please, let’s not pretend we know an “adjustment” if it kicked us in the teeth.

I had high hopes. He failed. I'm not absolving any of the other coaches (or players), but it's a good start.

Originally Posted by Jaded

Please, let’s not pretend we know an “adjustment” if it kicked us in the teeth.

Is everything ok? You've been a bit on edge lately. I'm surprised you would go after Joe like this, Ninja last night. Can we help in any way?

Originally Posted by Tned

I'm not sure why you would claim that personnel has no impact on production. That's a silly contention. Of course it does, but it's also incumbent on coordinators to devise schemes to maximize the production from the talent on the team.

I’m not saying it has no impact, I'm using sarcasm to say Elway’s personnel **** ups had a huge impact on McCoys lack of production.

You’re the one suggesting that the lack of offensive production was all on McCoy, therefor you’re the one suggesting that personnel had no impact on production.

#TnedNeedsHisOwnPointsExplainedToHim

Originally Posted by Jaded

I’m not saying it has no impact, I'm using sarcasm to say Elway’s personnel **** ups had a huge impact on McCoys lack of production.

You’re the one suggesting that the lack of offensive production was all on McCoy, therefor you’re the one suggesting that personnel had no impact on production.

#TnedNeedsHisOwnPointsExplainedToHim

Come on dude, don't back track now. You stated, and I quote, "Because personnel has no impact on production" (see your actual quote below).

I think it's crazy for you to contend that personnel has no impact on production, but I guess the point you were trying to make is that a good scheme can overcome poor talent.

Originally Posted by Jaded

Because personnel has no impact on production.

You know shit's ****** up when Jaded is the voice of reason.

He was being sarcastic, Tned.

Originally Posted by Slick

He was being sarcastic, Tned.

I don't think so, Jaded has made it very clear that he says what he means, means what he says, and that anyone that doesn't understand it has mental defects.