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    Who the hell keeps putting McKenzie back there to field punts when the man is a FUMBLE MACHINE?

    Olivo? Vance?

    EVERY time we allow opponents to kick to him its an opportunity for ball possession inside our redzone

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    FIRE the one making that decision YESTERDAY!




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    IN PATON I TRUST.

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    They have to fix the ball-security issues immediately.

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    He had a good week of practice. It's confusing why he keeps fumbling punts!

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    Does anyone know how many times he’s fumbled compared to how many times he’s actually tried to field punts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Al Wilson 4 Mayor View Post
    Does anyone know how many times he’s fumbled compared to how many times he’s actually tried to field punts?
    He's had 20 returns, 4 fair catches and five fumbles.

    Stats from here and here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buff View Post
    What is this, amateur hour? It's TNF against the Jets and you didn't think you'd need extra booze?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WARHORSE View Post
    Who the hell keeps putting McKenzie back there to field punts when the man is a FUMBLE MACHINE?

    Olivo? Vance?

    EVERY time we allow opponents to kick to him its an opportunity for ball possession inside our redzone

    HOW.

    DUMB.

    IS.

    THAT?


    FIRE the one making that decision YESTERDAY!




    Rant over..........steam not.
    McKenzie has to go through his trials and tribulations, he will be fine next year. He's never been a fumble guy or muff guy in college so that just says to me that the game hasn't slowed down for him yet, he's still adapting to the speed of the game. This guy is going to be a supreme returner for us. Cannot wait for Carlos Henderson the WR we drafted..... This guy is needed badly to play the slot WR positionI especially since we don't have a threat at the TE position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DT88TheGreat View Post
    McKenzie has to go through his trials and tribulations, he will be fine next year. He's never been a fumble guy or muff guy in college so that just says to me that the game hasn't slowed down for him yet, he's still adapting to the speed of the game. This guy is going to be a supreme returner for us. Cannot wait for Carlos Henderson the WR we drafted..... This guy is needed badly to play the slot WR positionI especially since we don't have a threat at the TE position.
    NFL punt returners don't fumble 1 out of every 6 returns. He needs to be benched.
    *The statements above are my opinions, unless they are links, because then they are links, which wouldn't make them my opinions, and I suppose stats aren't necessarily opinion, but they are certainly presented to support an opinion. Proceed accordingly.

    Quote Originally Posted by Buff View Post
    What is this, amateur hour? It's TNF against the Jets and you didn't think you'd need extra booze?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MOtorboat View Post
    He's had 20 returns, 4 fair catches and five fumbles.

    Stats from here and here.
    Five out of 24. That’s approximately a 21% fumble rate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MOtorboat View Post
    NFL punt returners don't fumble 1 out of every 6 returns. He needs to be benched.
    1 out of 5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MOtorboat View Post
    NFL punt returners don't fumble 1 out of every 6 returns. He needs to be benched.
    If it's happening next season then come talk to me about it, I'm not worried about it right now. Growing pains of the NFL, it's something he's never had a issue with at this rate. So I'll deal with the muffs, I will tolerate mistakes from a rookie, will not tolerate mistake after mistake from a veteran..... Again if he's doing it next year then I'll be alarmed, besides it's contributing to what we need now more than ever (losses).

    I'd bet my last dollar come week 12 and forward he starts breaking big runs and has at least 2-3 touchdowns.

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    Benching him won't really mean anything since the guy is genuinely bummed out about his fumbles. It's not like he's just like ( whatever ) about it. I commend Vance for sticking with the kid showing him that he believes in his ability to help this team in the long run, and that he trust him. McKenzie is going t swing a lot of game's in a positive way for us for year's to come.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Al Wilson 4 Mayor View Post
    Five out of 24. That’s approximately a 21% fumble rate.
    I don't think a fumble would be considered a return or a fair catch. So I think it's 5 out of 29. But I'm not 100 percent on that.
    *The statements above are my opinions, unless they are links, because then they are links, which wouldn't make them my opinions, and I suppose stats aren't necessarily opinion, but they are certainly presented to support an opinion. Proceed accordingly.

    Quote Originally Posted by Buff View Post
    What is this, amateur hour? It's TNF against the Jets and you didn't think you'd need extra booze?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DT88TheGreat View Post
    Benching him won't really mean anything since the guy is genuinely bummed out about his fumbles. It's not like he's just like ( whatever ) about it. I commend Vance for sticking with the kid showing him that he believes in his ability to help this team in the long run, and that he trust him. McKenzie is going t swing a lot of game's in a positive way for us for year's to come.
    Don't bench him because he's "bummed out." Awesome. Thanks for the input John Fox.
    *The statements above are my opinions, unless they are links, because then they are links, which wouldn't make them my opinions, and I suppose stats aren't necessarily opinion, but they are certainly presented to support an opinion. Proceed accordingly.

    Quote Originally Posted by Buff View Post
    What is this, amateur hour? It's TNF against the Jets and you didn't think you'd need extra booze?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DT88TheGreat View Post
    Benching him won't really mean anything since the guy is genuinely bummed out about his fumbles. It's not like he's just like ( whatever ) about it. I commend Vance for sticking with the kid showing him that he believes in his ability to help this team in the long run, and that he trust him. McKenzie is going t swing a lot of game's in a positive way for us for year's to come.

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