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    Default NFL draft order - 2018

    Okay, so we're 3-5 and likely headed for 3-6 after Brady has his way with us on Sunday night. Despite word that we'll be trying to win the division as long as it's mathematically possible, it seems very likely we're headed for a bad season and therefore a high draft pick. This handy website lists and constantly updates the draft order for 2018. As of today, we would have the 9th pick. Since this team doesn't often have bad seasons, that's not a spot we're used to being. The last time we had a really high draft pick, of course, was when we selected Von Miller. If we finish with a top ten pick, we should have our pick of mostly anyone, either by virtue of good players still being there or by moving up to get our next QB. Who does everyone want?

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    Gun to my head right now?

    Sam Darnold if he declares.

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    Top priority is Right Tackle. (OT Mike McGlinchey from Notre Dame)

    Then... draft QB Lamar Jackson from Louisville.

    DE, ILB, and FS.

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    I used to post in Threads of Seasons past how it was way to early to be thinking if the Draft in November.

    OLine QB TE WR absolute priorities
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    tankathon... lol nice. Took at look at the NHL one as well, looks like the Edmonton OilTankers are right on path as well.

    Is Baker Mayfield not in this years draft?

    Don't know where he is projected to get picked but I would love to see the Broncos get Braxton Berrios. He's going to the be Welker type slot receiver / returner... will probably see the Patriots pick him.


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    Quote Originally Posted by weazel View Post
    tankathon... lol nice. Took at look at the NHL one as well, looks like the Edmonton OilTankers are right on path as well.

    Is Baker Mayfield not in this years draft?
    He'll be there, but scouts are divided on him right now. I'm pretty high on Mayfield - that's the guy I want, actually. I'd like Darnold, but I'm not even sure he comes out and I don't know if he'd be worth a ransom to move up and get.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VonDoom View Post
    He'll be there, but scouts are divided on him right now. I'm pretty high on Mayfield - that's the guy I want, actually. I'd like Darnold, but I'm not even sure he comes out and I don't know if he'd be worth a ransom to move up and get.
    If they decide Darnold is can't miss they should pay whatever price it takes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slick View Post
    If they decide Darnold is can't miss they should pay whatever price it takes.
    This is true. I've already said we need to overspend on the QB position this year - get a FA and use our first pick on one if they love a guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slick View Post
    Gun to my head right now?

    Sam Darnold if he declares.
    Maybe Darnold can break the cycle of overrated USC QBs that come into the NFL. I believe Palmer is the only decent one to come out in a long time.

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    With this offensive line, Lamar Jackson makes the most sense.
    I miss the old Mile High Stadium.

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    As of now, the Broncos would be 8th, but that will "improve" with further expected losses. The real problem is going to be getting a top 5 pick in order to acquire a franchise QB when about 10 other teams all want the same QBs, and the Broncos are unlikely to get one of the top 3 picks.

    10th pick - Chicago Bears NFC 3-5
    9th pick - Cincinnati Bengals AFC 3-5
    8th pick - Denver Broncos AFC 3-5 Denver picks ahead of the Bears and Bengals based on tie-breaking procedures like conference record and strength of schedule. Of course the Broncos play the Bengals in 2 weeks, so the loser of that game will probably have the tie-breaker.
    7th pick - Houston Texans AFC 3-5
    6th pick - Los Angeles Chargers AFC 3-5
    5th pick - Indianapolis Colts AFC 3-6 (Broncos play the Colts too)
    4th pick - Tampa Bay Buccaneers NFC 2-6
    3rd pick - New York Giants NFC 1-7 (Broncos already lost to the Giants, but they have only 1 win)
    2nd pick - Cleveland Browns AFC 0-8
    1st pick - San Francisco 49ers NFC 0-9
    The Broncos could lose out, finish 3-13 and still have no better than the #3 overall pick, in a draft where some draft experts expect the top 3 players to be QBs. This doesn't take into account that the 49ers are almost certainly going to get one of the top 2 picks, but they just traded a 2nd round pick in 2018 for QB Jimmy Garapollo. So, if they took a QB with their pick that would be their top 2 picks for QBs - on a roster that needs at least 11 new starters, and probably about 15.

    Depending on where the Broncos wind up, they would have to move up in the draft.

    How much would that cost? Take a look at the draft value chart.


    Round 1 Round 2 Round 3 Round 4 Round 5 Round 6 Round 7
    1 3,000 33 580 65 265 97 112 129 43 161 27 193 14.2
    2 2,600 34 560 66 260 98 108 130 42 162 26.6 194 13.8
    3 2,200 35 550 67 255 99 104 131 41 163 26.2 195 13.4
    4 1,800 36 540 68 250 100 100 132 40 164 25.8 196 13
    5 1,700 37 530 69 245 101 96 133 39.5 165 25.4 197 12.6
    6 1,600 38 520 70 240 102 92 134 39 166 25 198 12.2
    7 1,500 39 510 71 235 103 88 135 38.5 167 24.6 199 11.8
    8 1,400 40 500 72 230 104 86 136 38 168 24.2 200 11.4
    9 1,350 41 490 73 225 105 84 137 37.5 169 23.8 201 11
    10 1,300 42 480 74 220 106 82 138 37 170 23.4 202 10.6
    11 1,250 43 470 75 215 107 80 139 36.5 171 23 203 10.2
    12 1,200 44 460 76 210 108 78 140 36 172 22.6 204 9.8
    13 1,150 45 450 77 205 109 76 141 35.5 173 22.2 205 9.4
    14 1,100 46 440 78 200 110 74 142 35 174 21.8 206 9
    15 1,050 47 430 79 195 111 72 143 34.5 175 21.4 207 8.6
    16 1,000 48 420 80 190 112 70 144 34 176 21 208 8.2
    17 950 49 410 81 185 113 68 145 33.5 177 20.6 209 7.8
    18 900 50 400 82 180 114 66 146 33 178 20.2 210 7.4
    19 875 51 390 83 175 115 64 147 32.6 179 19.8 211 7
    20 850 52 380 84 170 116 62 148 32.2 180 19.4 212 6.6
    21 800 53 370 85 165 117 60 149 31.8 181 19 213 6.2
    22 780 54 360 86 160 118 58 150 31.4 182 18.6 214 5.8
    23 760 55 350 87 155 119 56 151 31 183 18.2 215 5.4
    24 740 56 340 88 150 120 54 152 30.6 184 17.8 216 5
    25 720 57 330 89 145 121 52 153 30.2 185 17.4 217 4.6
    26 700 58 320 90 140 122 50 154 29.8 186 17 218 4.2
    27 680 59 310 91 136 123 49 155 29.4 187 16.6 219 3.8
    28 660 60 300 92 132 124 48 156 29 188 16.2 220 3.4
    29 640 61 292 93 128 125 47 157 28.6 189 15.8 221 3
    30 620 62 284 94 124 126 46 158 28.2 190 15.4 222 2.6
    31 600 63 276 95 120 127 45 159 27.8 191 15 223 2.3
    32 590 64 270 96 116 128 44 160 27.4 192 14.6 224 2
    So, for the Broncos to move up from #8 to #3, for example, would cost around 2200 - 1400 = 800 points. So, it would take the Broncos 1st and 2nd round picks, plus something to equal about 300 more points, which would be the Broncos #3 pick, or else some equivalent in players etc.

    In short, it would take a lot. To move up from outside the top 10 is often not even possible because the trading team does not want to move down too far. Of course, the trade value chart isn't totally exact, but teams do use it as a starting point in negotiations.

    The cost would be exorbitantly high, but what choice do they have? Elway has tried repeatedly to find a QB, and every time he fails it costs the team another 2 years in the wilderness with no playoff appearances. They need a DeShaun Watson or Derek Carr or Dak Prescott or Russell Wilson on this roster - just to name QBs the Broncos could have possibly drafted but didn't.

    The draft of Paxton Lynch was supposed to provide a franchise QB for the next 10 years but didn't as Paxton is a bust.
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    They would be able to get a Lamar Jackson in that range.

    Jeremiah Briscoe would be a QB to look for in a later round
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    Quote Originally Posted by weazel View Post
    They would be able to get a Lamar Jackson in that range.

    Jeremiah Briscoe would be a QB to look for in a later round
    The Broncos can't waste any more seasons getting "later round" QBs who are "overlooked" and therefore cheap. They have lots of "developmental QBs" who can't play dead in a western, (Trevor, Brock, Paxton) and NO franchise QBs. They need an absolute, can't miss, blue-chip QB, or the closest thing they can get to him. And no more time can be spent on "coaching up" some random dude like Trevor who nobody outside Denver ever expected to do anything or waiting endlessly for Paxton "to be ready."

    They should get a pretty good look at Paxton after the next two losses to the Pats and Bengals. Unless he suddenly starts looking like a healthy Andrew Luck, forget it. Move on and start compiling draft picks so you can move up in the draft and get a top QB prospect.

    After all, what else do they need? They can get a RT in FA. They already have their LT in Bolles. They could use a TE but they have Jake Butt coming off IR next year. They could use an inside LB but that's the kind of player you can get in the 2nd, same thing for CB. As for RBs they are something you can find in later rounds OK.

    Especially this is true if the Broncos get a top 6 pick, which means they would have a high pick in every round.
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    I don’t like any of these quarterbacks in the top 3, especially if Eway is making the pick. Now, if he goes defense or OT I’ll be very optimistic we have an impact player on our hands

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cugel View Post
    The Broncos can't waste any more seasons getting "later round" QBs who are "overlooked" and therefore cheap. They have lots of "developmental QBs" who can't play dead in a western, (Trevor, Brock, Paxton) and NO franchise QBs. They need an absolute, can't miss, blue-chip QB, or the closest thing they can get to him. And no more time can be spent on "coaching up" some random dude like Trevor who nobody outside Denver ever expected to do anything or waiting endlessly for Paxton "to be ready."

    They should get a pretty good look at Paxton after the next two losses to the Pats and Bengals. Unless he suddenly starts looking like a healthy Andrew Luck, forget it. Move on and start compiling draft picks so you can move up in the draft and get a top QB prospect.

    After all, what else do they need? They can get a RT in FA. They already have their LT in Bolles. They could use a TE but they have Jake Butt coming off IR next year. They could use an inside LB but that's the kind of player you can get in the 2nd, same thing for CB. As for RBs they are something you can find in later rounds OK.

    Especially this is true if the Broncos get a top 6 pick, which means they would have a high pick in every round.
    and that's why I mentioned the other guys in previous posts... now wipe that foam from your mouth. BTW... what is wrong with grabbing a QB in later rounds as well as trying to get your stud early? Briscoe could be a wasted late pick but he could also be the next Wentz... who knows.


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