Thread: NFL draft order - 2018

Originally Posted by Buff

I don't know much about this year's prospects because I've all but retired from watching college football... But after reading a number of your posts I agree with your overall philosophy. You look at guys who succeed and they are the natural leaders, born winners - Russell Wilson, Dak Prescott, Carson Wentz. The QB intangible traits matter almost as much as their measurables...

You look at the last couple guys we drafted and it seems like Elway overweighted the physical requirements and underweighted the other stuff that's arguably more important.

That is what Kyle Shanahan told Mark Schlereth. The college game is so different than the pros that it's very hard to evaluate college QBs for their ability to transition to the pro-game.

About all scouts have to go on is "he has elite arm talent" meaning he can make accurate throws. But, can he read NFL defenses in under 2 seconds? Can he learn to throw open receivers rather than waiting for the WR to get open, then throwing the ball, which they haven't time to do in the NFL.

Originally Posted by HORSEPOWER 56

I think it’s what we need more than ever. I hate to bring him up, but can you imagine if Tebow could have read a coverage and thrown accurately from the pocket? With all the other intangibles? Man.

And this is the crux of the issue. He couldn’t read a defense or identify coverages and remember the playbook. The “born winner” stuff sounds fun, but I’m just as worried about the cerebral side of the position than the rah-rah stuff.

Originally Posted by Buff

I don't know much about this year's prospects because I've all but retired from watching college football... But after reading a number of your posts I agree with your overall philosophy. You look at guys who succeed and they are the natural leaders, born winners - Russell Wilson, Dak Prescott, Carson Wentz. The QB intangible traits matter almost as much as their measurables...

You look at the last couple guys we drafted and it seems like Elway overweighted the physical requirements and underweighted the other stuff that's arguably more important.

Mayfield doesn’t remind me of Wilson or Wentz. They are cerebral, intelligence, confident leaders who also played in systems that were conducive to transferring those skills to the pro game.

Mayfield is not cerebral in any way, his confidence comes across as arrogance and the system doesn’t really give me confidence that he can play the pro game.

Quote Originally Posted by HORSEPOWER 56 View Post
I think it’s what we need more than ever. I hate to bring him up, but can you imagine if Tebow could have read a coverage and thrown accurately from the pocket? With all the other intangibles? Man.

And if I were totally hot and about 30 years younger, with all my other "intangibles" I could be dating a woman who looks like Nina Dobrev too for all that is worth. I.e. nothing.

Originally Posted by Cugel

And if I were totally hot and about 30 years younger, with all my other "intangibles" I could be dating a woman who looks like Nina Dobrev too for all that is worth. I.e. nothing.

Don’t kid yourself. There’s only one intangible needed for women like that and it’s actually very tangible. It’s called money.

There's a very real possibility that Denver isn't even picking in the top 10 when all this is said and done. Latest Tankathon numbers have Denver picking 8th.

Originally Posted by Slick

There's a very real possibility that Denver isn't even picking in the top 10 when all this is said and done. Latest Tankathon numbers have Denver picking 8th.

But hey - everybody feels really positive today after beating a bottom of the barrel colts team! Building a winning culture!

Originally Posted by Buff

But hey - everybody feels really positive today after beating a bottom of the barrel colts team! Building a winning culture!

BRONCOS gonna win the next two! I'm so excited!

Originally Posted by Slick

BRONCOS gonna win the next two! I'm so excited!

Nah. Lynch is starting. Redskins are going to beat Denver badly on Christmas Eve. That's if Lynch can make it the whole game without getting hurt.

I do like how you think, though.

Originally Posted by Nomad

Nah. Lynch is starting. Redskins are going to beat Denver badly on Christmas Eve. That's if Lynch can make it the whole game without getting hurt.

I do like how you think, though.

LYNCH gonna come in and light those Redskins up! BRONCOS gonna do work!

Only people crying on the sidelines gonna be Redskins.

Originally Posted by Slick

LYNCH gonna come in and light those Redskins up! BRONCOS gonna do work!

Only people crying on the sidelines gonna be Redskins.

You sound a lot like me. You're even posting like me.....I like the optimism.

Nice, we’re back up to 6th. We can feasibly get as high as 4 if TB and HOU win their last game and we lose to KC.

Originally Posted by HORSEPOWER 56

Nice, we’re back up to 6th. We can feasibly get as high as 4 if TB and HOU win their last game and we lose to KC.

We’re tied with the 9ers now. I wouldn’t be surprised if they beat the Rams to close the season

Originally Posted by Al Wilson 4 Mayor

We’re tied with the 9ers now. I wouldn’t be surprised if they beat the Rams to close the season

We’re actually tied with the 49ers, Bears, and Jets at 5-10, but pick before all of them based on opponent win %. If the Texans and Bucs win their last game and we lose to KC, we’ll be tied with them at 5-11 and will move above both because of opponent win %. The table in the first post’s link is up to date and updates every week.

Originally Posted by HORSEPOWER 56

We’re actually tied with the 49ers, Bears, and Jets at 5-10, but pick before all of them based on opponent win %. If the Texans and Bucs win their last game and we lose to KC, we’ll be tied with them at 5-11 and will move above both because of opponent win %. The table in the first post’s link is up to date and updates every week.

I don’t see the Bucs beating the Saints, but Houston should beat the Browns