Thread: NFL draft order - 2018

Originally Posted by Hawgdriver

Those are Mayfield comparisons, not Lamar Jackson.

They're also lazy Mayfield comparisons, since he's not really like Manziel as a player.

Originally Posted by VonDoom

They're also lazy Mayfield comparisons, since he's not really like Manziel as a player.

I don't agree with the comparison. But unless I'm mistaken, they share these qualities:

undersized
athletic/footspeed
off-field questions
swagger
Heisman cred
gamer

I don't watch much college football though. Manziel would tuck and run more often, right?

Originally Posted by Hawgdriver

I don't agree with the comparison. But unless I'm mistaken, they share these qualities:

undersized
athletic/footspeed
off-field questions
swagger
Heisman cred
gamer

I don't watch much college football though. Manziel would tuck and run more often, right?

In general, I would say that's accurate. I found this, though - gives a pretty good breakdown of this exact comparison:

http://waitingfornextyear.com/2017/1...hnny-football/

Originally Posted by VonDoom

In general, I would say that's accurate. I found this, though - gives a pretty good breakdown of this exact comparison:

http://waitingfornextyear.com/2017/1...hnny-football/

Here’s another long but interesting article about Mayfield.

http://http://www.nfl.com/labs/cfb247/baker-mayfield/baker-mayfield

As of now, if we drafted a QB, he’d be my choice.

Quote Originally Posted by Hawgdriver View Post
Those are Mayfield comparisons, not Lamar Jackson.

You are right.

I don't really have an opinion on who Elway should pick. The problem is that he is constantly going for an inside straight and busting when it comes to picking QBs.

You really have low probability of finding a star QB in the second round or even at #26 in the first round. Sure, it can happen (Drew Brees was #32) but it's so rare that it's not the way to bet.

Most of the really good QBs are taken in the top 15, and usually top 10. The problem is that everybody points to the exceptions like Tom Brady. Exceptions are rare of course.

Rather like this guy being married to this woman:



Short bald dude normally doesn't wind up with Marilyn Monroe.

Arthur Miller wound up marrying Marilyn Monroe. Bad example.

McShay put out his first mock draft - he has us taking Josh Allen at #5 (ugh), with Darnold and Rosen going 1 and 2 to the Browns and Giants, respectively. He has the Chargers taking Mayfield at #19, which would make me sad.

Originally Posted by VonDoom

McShay put out his first mock draft - he has us taking Josh Allen at #5 (ugh), with Darnold and Rosen going 1 and 2 to the Browns and Giants, respectively. He has the Chargers taking Mayfield at #19, which would make me sad.

I’m scared shitless of Allen. He’s another giraffe with a big arm who has lost more games than he’s won and plays against inferior talent and with inferior talent. Another “big armed project”. If we wanted that, we should’ve just kept Sloter...

Originally Posted by HORSEPOWER 56

I’m scared shitless of Allen. He’s another giraffe with a big arm who has lost more games than he’s won and plays against inferior talent and with inferior talent. Another “big armed project”. If we wanted that, we should’ve just kept Sloter...

I don't know much about this year's prospects because I've all but retired from watching college football... But after reading a number of your posts I agree with your overall philosophy. You look at guys who succeed and they are the natural leaders, born winners - Russell Wilson, Dak Prescott, Carson Wentz. The QB intangible traits matter almost as much as their measurables...

You look at the last couple guys we drafted and it seems like Elway overweighted the physical requirements and underweighted the other stuff that's arguably more important.

I love Allen

Originally Posted by VonDoom

McShay put out his first mock draft - he has us taking Josh Allen at #5 (ugh), with Darnold and Rosen going 1 and 2 to the Browns and Giants, respectively. He has the Chargers taking Mayfield at #19, which would make me sad.

Has Darnold committed to the draft? I read where he's disappointed in his play this season, and may return?

Originally Posted by Buff

I don't know much about this year's prospects because I've all but retired from watching college football... But after reading a number of your posts I agree with your overall philosophy. You look at guys who succeed and they are the natural leaders, born winners - Russell Wilson, Dak Prescott, Carson Wentz. The QB intangible traits matter almost as much as their measurables...

You look at the last couple guys we drafted and it seems like Elway overweighted the physical requirements and underweighted the other stuff that's arguably more important.

I think it’s what we need more than ever. I hate to bring him up, but can you imagine if Tebow could have read a coverage and thrown accurately from the pocket? With all the other intangibles? Man.

Originally Posted by Nomad

Has Darnold committed to the draft? I read where he's disappointed in his play this season, and may return?

No, and I don't think even Rosen officially has. But in order to do mock drafts, there must be speculation.

They will undoubtedly be the first 2 picks, they would be stupid not to enter.

Originally Posted by OrangeHoof

Arthur Miller wound up marrying Marilyn Monroe. Bad example.

And Kurt Warner was undrafted! And Russell Wilson was drafted in the third round. Not often though.