Thread: Vance Joseph accepts blame for Broncos' skid

Originally Posted by wayninja

As fun as this is, we have opt in threads for this stuff.

Ninja, flashing the badge.

Originally Posted by Denver Native (Carol)

rest - http://www.9news.com/sports/vance-jo...skid/489698037

A true leader of men, Josh McDaniel would never accept any blame or change anything! Vance still has the respect of his team and to question it is foolish imo. The Broncos just have one major flaw on a great defense and that's a stud MLB like Roquan Smith out of Georgia, he is the missing link and would instantly be an upgrade is guarding backs and tightend when he's called upon, his play recognition ability is outstanding ad I won't even speak on his natural athleticI ability which is beyond Elite.

https://youtu.be/gtqI3BQMtl0 check this beast out!

https://youtu.be/OZhCNVPcz5o

Originally Posted by Denver Native (Carol)

If that is true, does that mean that McCoy is out?

Musgrave was brung here to.eventually be a OC anyway so I wouldn't be suprised

Originally Posted by Freyaka

West Coast, it's the offense that the Raiders were so successful with last season, he was their OC.

You mean the offense that has the quarterback launching from different spots in the pocket? Moving around that fits lynch more than any of the other guy's minus Chad kelly? Hurry up and install musgrave offense then, after we get smacked around by the pats itll be lynch turn.

Originally Posted by Rick

Of course, not to be the Debbie downer or anything, but Kubiak ran a west coast offense as well and our offense was shit under him too.

There are different version's of the west coast offense. They have some of the same concepts but schemes and play calling along with personnel makes them unique.

Originally Posted by Timmy!

Ninja, flashing the badge.

Yep, I'm pretty sure that's why they call me the flasher.

Originally Posted by slim

Shut it, NTL jr.

We are running this show.

Really? You think we are going to let the inmates run the prison?

Originally Posted by Freyaka

I'd say something about the inmates running the prison, but apparently that pissed off a bunch of players in Houston.

****, every time I have a good line, I find someone has already used it.

Originally Posted by Tned

Really? You think we are going to let the inmates run the prison?

Take it easy, rich white owner.

Originally Posted by slim

Take it easy, rich white owner.

That's racist, offensive and insensitive.

Originally Posted by Tned

That's racist, offensive and insensitive.

You know me so well!!

So the season was in reality doomed from training camp, when they were forced to name Trevor Siemian as the starter because he clearly beat out Paxton Lynch. Only he was a journeyman QB who can succeed IF and only if you have an elite OL and playmakers all around him to support him. And then only if you don't ask too much.

He's Kyle Orton #2. He can do OK for a while, but then teams start seriously game-planning to take away what he can do and force him to do things he doesn't do well - like making tough throws under pressure. And the things he doesn't do well, he REALLY doesn't do well because he lacks athletic talent.

Well, starting Trevor was not ever Plan A. It was Plan E after (A) Peyton retired early due to injury, (B) Brock left town and then (F) sucked when he returned, (C) Butt-Fumbler who was supposed to start until Paxton was ready, fumbled his way out of town, and (D) Paxton came into the league clueless and stayed that way for 2 years.

Normally, when a team is down to Plan F at QB it's not going to go well. And it hasn't. True, Joe Woods is not measuring up to Wade Phillips, Mike McCoy's offense is clueless and hopelessly scoring about 14 points a game, and VJ seems lost out there.

But, even if all those coaching problems weren't happening, this Broncos team has no chance of winning a SB - because they don't have an elite QB. And no, 2015 is not relevant because (1) the defense is not the same without Danny Trevathan, HOF DeMarcus Ware and Malik Jackson, and they seem to be missing TJ Ward too. Oh, and there's that small factor that you don't have Peyton's leadership.

It's no accident that the team played with a LOT more intensity in 2012-2015 than it does now. Peyton would curse out anybody for screwing up. So they were afraid to screw up. Now they just shrug.