Thread: Fire Vance Joseph

Originally Posted by Hawgdriver

Shanny wasn't firing DCs willy nilly. There were reasons!

But the real problem never seemed to go away.

#defendingtheanalogy

Here the reasons are not just performance.

Fox walked because he wouldn't turn up the intensity. He then tanked in Chicago and is unhirable.

Kubiak retired because the loaded roster he inherited was crumbling, as was his health. Again, not something performance related.

VJ was hired and then retained a second year. This is pure performance.

The analogy doesn't work that well, imo. But, truly you are smarter than I am.

Originally Posted by Hawgdriver

Shanny wasn't firing DCs willy nilly. There were reasons!

But the real problem never seemed to go away.

#defendingtheanalogy

We've only technically fired one coach since we got rid of shanny.

Originally Posted by King87

Here the reasons are not just performance.

Fox walked because he wouldn't turn up the intensity. He then tanked in Chicago and is unhirable.

Kubiak retired because the loaded roster he inherited was crumbling, as was his health. Again, not something performance related.

VJ was hired and then retained a second year. This is pure performance.

The analogy doesn't work that well, imo. But, truly you are smarter than I am.

Bleh.

I'm done with this for tonight. Dude is toast anyway. We ride.

Originally Posted by Hawgdriver

Bleh.

I'm done with this for tonight. Dude is toast anyway. We ride.

Thats all we can do until we right the ship.

Originally Posted by Hawgdriver

Bleh.

I'm done with this for tonight. Dude is toast anyway. We ride.

I appreciate the conversation though. It was well thought out and no one was mad at each other. Feel good about that.

I don't think he's getting fired.

I will say that Elway absolutely has to get the next coach and the next QB right. If those next two are duds again, it becomes almost impossible to keep defending his performance.

Originally Posted by BroncoWave

I will say that Elway absolutely has to get the next coach and the next QB right. If those next two are duds again, it becomes almost impossible to keep defending his performance.

He's on borrowed time but his leash is longer than VJ's.

Originally Posted by Northman

He's on borrowed time but his leash is longer than VJ's.

I don't think so. It would take a couple more years of this, imo.

Joseph should be gone already. Horrified he isn't.

Originally Posted by Northman

Thats all we can do until we right the ship.

You are my bro North.

I’m glad we can all that VJ is 100% to blame for everything and that he should be fired.

Originally Posted by Denver Native (Carol)

rest - https://www.9news.com/article/sports...8-9418d87fd0d5

Wait a sec... wasn’t Wolfe one of the dudes calling out the coaches about not listening to the players and how the players can only run what is called, etc? Now he’s all “players coach” and feeling sorry? Methinks his nasty dreadlocks are producing toxic fumes that are ******* with his brain.

Originally Posted by HORSEPOWER 56

Wait a sec... wasn’t Wolfe one of the dudes calling out the coaches about not listening to the players and how the players can only run what is called, etc? Now he’s all “players coach” and feeling sorry? Methinks his nasty dreadlocks are producing toxic fumes that are ******* with his brain.

I think he's overrated and a jackass.

I think the bottom line, both figuratively and financially, is this - if both Keenum and VJ are back next year, the fans won’t come to the games and VJ has less of a cap hit...

Seriously, unless we go out and sign/trade for another team’s unwanted veteran QB, Keenum will still be here next year keeping the seat warm for whoever we draft as QBOTF. I think it’s more likely Elway brings in a coach he thinks can help Keenum than a QB who will shield VJ. Staying with both will cost him the fan base.

Originally Posted by Hawgdriver

Man...when it's the Indy 500 and they give you the keys to a Nissan Leaf...is it really failing to finish in the third quartile?

He runs the team to roll with a leaf. His defense was up and down, but that defense was supposed to let CK be a leaf. That's on VJ. Also, he bumbled games when that leaf was in the lead, or in the thick of it.

The year prior his dodge neon was good enough to get the team out to a hot start, too.

******* cars, fam.

They fire his ass yet?