Thread: Fire Vance Joseph

Originally Posted by MOtorboat

Certainly, but they also allowed 19 on that day too.

I won't quibble this too much. 19 doesn't tell the whole story. But yeah.

Originally Posted by Hawgdriver

I won't quibble this too much. 19 doesn't tell the whole story. But yeah.

Neither does 90 percent. And neither number shows the situations the defense was put into through no fault of their own, especially in the first half. It was a mixed bag, for sure.

Originally Posted by BroncoWave

Originally Posted by Shazam!

I used to HATE Manning, watching him beat the Broncos' brains in. Never in my wildest dreams did i ever imagine him being in Denver.

Those games against him felt truly hopeless. There was just nothing we could do to stop him. Was definitely way more fun having him on our side.

I was rejoicing when Pitt beat Indy in the 05 Playoffs to spare us another beatdown for third straight year. I did not think Pitt woulda beat Jake and Co. Had Denver somehow pulled that game out and they were Super, history would have been changed in Broncos country.

Originally Posted by Shazam!

I was rejoicing when Pitt beat Indy in the 05 Playoffs to spare us another beatdown for third straight year. I did not think Pitt woulda beat Jake and Co. Had Denver somehow pulled that game out and they were Super, history would have been changed in Broncos country.

I think that Pitt game haunts me even more than the Ravens 2OT game because we basically had the super bowl on a silver platter that year. Just had to beat Pitt at home then get a historically awful super bowl team in Seattle. That felt more like a super bowl we should have won than the 2012 year where we still would have had two more very tough games against the Pats and Niners.

Originally Posted by BroncoWave

Originally Posted by Shazam!

I was rejoicing when Pitt beat Indy in the 05 Playoffs to spare us another beatdown for third straight year. I did not think Pitt woulda beat Jake and Co. Had Denver somehow pulled that game out and they were Super, history would have been changed in Broncos country.

I think that Pitt game haunts me even more than the Ravens 2OT game because we basically had the super bowl on a silver platter that year. Just had to beat Pitt at home then get a historically awful super bowl team in Seattle. That felt more like a super bowl we should have won than the 2012 year where we still would have had two more very tough games against the Pats and Niners.

Lived and died by the blitz that year. Al wilson as so good he helped to cover numerous deficiencies on that squad

Originally Posted by Freyaka

Originally Posted by ShaneFalco

https://www.milehighreport.com/2018/...things-learned

Yea, this whole giving them 2 miles of open space crap...Terrible play calling, even the announcers were like "Why are they lining up 20 yards off the receiver?

They were picking us apart with short dink and dunk passes to negate our pass rush. To stop that all we had to do was line up closer and start bumping at the line, instead we give them 10 yards to complete a very quick 5 yard pass with some YAC. It was stupid playcalling.

Heeeey Woods is the next great coordinator in the league. I mean we let Wade go because we slready had this phenom

Originally Posted by BroncoWave

Originally Posted by Shazam!

I was rejoicing when Pitt beat Indy in the 05 Playoffs to spare us another beatdown for third straight year. I did not think Pitt woulda beat Jake and Co. Had Denver somehow pulled that game out and they were Super, history would have been changed in Broncos country.

I think that Pitt game haunts me even more than the Ravens 2OT game because we basically had the super bowl on a silver platter that year. Just had to beat Pitt at home then get a historically awful super bowl team in Seattle. That felt more like a super bowl we should have won than the 2012 year where we still would have had two more very tough games against the Pats and Niners.

Had they been Super that year, Shanahan woulda had another 5 years easy, no Cutler, no McD... who knows? It turned out fine with PFM im not complaining.

Originally Posted by Krugan

The raiders are better then most give them credit for.

Sadly playing 6-12 yards off is more than likely a sign of something worse. I havent put my finger on it yet.

I think it had a lot to do with how tired they were. Our front 7 really struggled getting to the quarterback in the last 2.5 quarters because they were so tired. The off coverage in the second half made sense to me, especially when Miller and Chubb are sitting on the bench in the first series after the half.

Originally Posted by BroncoWave

I think that Pitt game haunts me even more than the Ravens 2OT game because we basically had the super bowl on a silver platter that year. Just had to beat Pitt at home then get a historically awful super bowl team in Seattle. That felt more like a super bowl we should have won than the 2012 year where we still would have had two more very tough games against the Pats and Niners.

I think the only reason it doesn't haunt me as much is that we were never in that game... It was 24-3 at halftime - Ward & the Bus were dominating us and Plummer was shitting the bed. But you're right that it was arguably more egregious. Just didn't hurt as bad for some reason.

Originally Posted by Buff

I think the only reason it doesn't haunt me as much is that we were never in that game... It was 24-3 at halftime - Ward & the Bus were dominating us and Plummer was shitting the bed. But you're right that it was arguably more egregious. Just didn't hurt as bad for some reason.

probably because going into the playoffs with jake plummer is an entirely different animal than going into the playoffs with peyton F. manning. . . we've been on both sides of that, we should know. . . 2005 we were playing with house money the whole season, you had to suspect somebody would figure out how to beat that zero blitz at some point. . .

Originally Posted by Buff

I think the only reason it doesn't haunt me as much is that we were never in that game... It was 24-3 at halftime - Ward & the Bus were dominating us and Plummer was shitting the bed. But you're right that it was arguably more egregious. Just didn't hurt as bad for some reason.

I was with a bunch of Chiefs fans for that Pittsburgh game, so that sucked.

Then again, they realize it’s better to be in the dance and lose then never be in the dance, so they were mostly quiet.

as for joseph. . . he has undoubtedly looked better so far. . . i am encouraged, but far from convinced. . . too many shades of 2017 yesterday for my liking, but they did show some resiliency and manage to pull it out, which we wouldn't have done last year. . . still, i remember 3-1-- he has a ways to go to earn any real trust from me. . . they will need to get better play from keenum down the stretch if we're going to be in the playoff picture. . .

Originally Posted by Buff

I think the only reason it doesn't haunt me as much is that we were never in that game... It was 24-3 at halftime - Ward & the Bus were dominating us and Plummer was shitting the bed. But you're right that it was arguably more egregious. Just didn't hurt as bad for some reason.

I agree that the loss itself didn't hurt as bad due to it being a blowout, it just hurts more in terms of what we left on the table. That 2005 super bowl feels like it should have been ours. 2012 even if we beat the Ravens I think our chances of winning it all from that point aren't much better than 1/4.

i want to see mike singletary in league again.

cant win with em!

Horrible challenge

Bad clock management and playcalls in the end zone deep in the 4th ruined any chance of a comeback

Defense allegedly his forte getting smoked way too lax

OLine getting obliterated as usual

Keenum indecisive largely because he was getting abused out there

Im sorry i hope it gets better but it doesnt appear to be.

Sad state of the Broncos under VJ