Thread: Mike Shanahan?

Originally Posted by Jaded

I love when people say they wasted this defense, 2015 may not have been the Tebow-Fun-Ride but it still counts.

I said waste this defense. It’s 2017 not 2015. Wolfe is the only lineman left from that team, Marshall and von only starters left st LB and the no fly zone has a couple of new parts. This defense in several ways is better than 2015 and this team would be a serious playoff contender with a very average offense.

Originally Posted by nevcraw

I said waste this defense. It’s 2017 not 2015. Wolfe is the only lineman left from that team, Marshall and von only starters left st LB and the no fly zone has a couple of new parts. This defense in several ways is better than 2015 and this team would be a serious playoff contender with a very average offense.

Oh that makes it better, I guess.

Btw, This defense can’t carry 2015’s sweaty jockstraps.

Originally Posted by Jaded

Oh that makes it better, I guess.

Btw, This defense can’t carry 2015’s sweaty jockstraps.

You mean Malik is better than Gotsis? Todd Davis vs Danny T?

By the way, I don't actually think our line is that bad. I mean our right tackle sucks. But the rest is pretty solid IMO.

Next year, I see us having one of the best starting lines in football

Originally Posted by Valar Morghulis

By the way, I don't actually think our line is that bad. I mean our right tackle sucks. But the rest is pretty solid IMO.

Next year, I see us having one of the best starting lines in football

i wouldn't say it's out of reach, if all our guys stay healthy and continue to progress. . . i would say it'll take another successful foray into the draft, though-- specifically, another high pick on tackle. . . i can't see it happening with watson there, and we know what's typically available in free agency. . . also, i'm not ready to get too stoked just because they run blocked better for one game. . . don't get me wrong, it's a nice sign, for sure. . . there's still a long ways to go. . . we at least picked up a few solid pieces to build around, so yea, we could be in good shape next year IF we get right tackle solved. . .

Originally Posted by dogfish

i wouldn't say it's out of reach, if all our guys stay healthy and continue to progress. . . i would say it'll take another successful foray into the draft, though-- specifically, another high pick on tackle. . . i can't see it happening with watson there, and we know what's typically available in free agency. . . also, i'm not ready to get too stoked just because they run blocked better for one game. . . don't get me wrong, it's a nice sign, for sure. . . there's still a long ways to go. . . we at least picked up a few solid pieces to build around, so yea, we could be in good shape next year IF we get right tackle solved. . .

Yeah, lotta ifs, health and RT dependant. I don't see us not addressing the right tackle though. LT through C are all really promising.

I even think we have pass blocked better this year and a lot of the sacks and hits on Siemian (that didn't come from the RT turnstile) were on him

I am not saying we are awesome, I am just saying we are not in as bad shape as I thought

Originally Posted by Valar Morghulis

By the way, I don't actually think our line is that bad. I mean our right tackle sucks. But the rest is pretty solid IMO.

Next year, I see us having one of the best starting lines in football

I think LG, or whichever position Leary isn’t playing, has to be addressed as well.

Y'all are throwing in the towel too soon.

Don't get me wrong, it's nice and rung out, I've taken a couple practice shots, I'm just saying, wait till we are 3-6 already

Originally Posted by Jaded

Originally Posted by nevcraw

I said waste this defense. It’s 2017 not 2015. Wolfe is the only lineman left from that team, Marshall and von only starters left st LB and the no fly zone has a couple of new parts. This defense in several ways is better than 2015 and this team would be a serious playoff contender with a very average offense.

Oh that makes it better, I guess.

Btw, This defense can’t carry 2015’s sweaty jockstraps.

Waste the Defense? Really. That sounds insane.

Unless we can pull off a Hershel Walker trade fleecing for Von. That may be the only way i could see being for that?

Originally Posted by Timmy!

Y'all are throwing in the towel too soon.

Don't get me wrong, it's nice and rung out, I've taken a couple practice shots, I'm just saying, wait till we are 3-6 already

I suppose we can wait a few days.

Originally Posted by nevcraw

I said waste this defense. It’s 2017 not 2015. Wolfe is the only lineman left from that team, Marshall and von only starters left st LB and the no fly zone has a couple of new parts. This defense in several ways is better than 2015 and this team would be a serious playoff contender with a very average offense.

And in some important ways it is much worse. No Demarcus Ware, and no Malik Jackson. DeMarcus is a Hall of Fame DE, and teams couldn't simply concentrate on Von and ignore him. Malik is an terror in the middle, getting pressure right in the QBs face preventing him from stepping up to avoid Von & DeMarcus.

And none of the Broncos ILBs can cover TEs like Trevathan. Now TEs just rip up this defense, and RBs who can catch passes.

This team has ONE serious pass-rusher in Von. IF Shane regains form he can provide an additional rusher. But, Shaqil Barrett is no DeMarcus Ware, and Gotsis is nothing compared with Malik. Gotsis is not an elite penetrating Tackle, which is what they paid Jackson $15m a year in Jacksonville to be.

Originally Posted by wayninja

I suppose we can wait a few days.

10 days to be exact before the Broncos lose to the Patriots and go 3-6 and the season is officially done. From that point they would have to win 7 straight after having just lost 5 in a row, just to get to 10-6 and have a chance at a wild-card. That ain't happening.

Verbal diarrhea.

In today's presser with Joseph, he was asked in regards to Philly Coach Pederson, he said new Coaches want to establish a culture of winning... I thought we HAD that already?

Originally Posted by MOtorboat

D.J. Williams was the least of that defense's problems.

DJ williams went from an elite weakside backer too pretty much a bag and it hurt our defense for sure, defense wasn't good at all to begin with and he had to go and ruin a playmaker at linebacker.