Thread: The Ringer: Touchdown Trevor is your God now

Oz wasn't ready, which really has been his whole career, with the brief but crucial exception of mid-2015, when Manning COULDN'T play and Oz was just good enough.

Nobody can argue with the idea that Oz has never been ready. He sucked his way out of Houston and Cleveland. And the Browns got rid of him despite the fact that their remaining QBs are rookie DeShaun Kizer, Cody Kessler, and the awesome Kevin Hogan!

Let the good times roll.

That's an oversimplification to say that people who love Trevor just loved him because he was a long shot. I liked the intangibles. As I've been saying all offseason his arm was completely under valued last year when he was throwing with a bad ankle and a bad off shoulder. Still not ready to say he's the quarterback of the future after lighting it up against a decimated Cowboy secondary. But the beautiful thing is confidence breeds confidence. Good performances even against Bad teams lead to good performances against better teams. I like Trevor because I think the guy has never truly been healthy until this year he finally has a run game and his undervalued athleticism and arm strength is finally getting to show because he's getting a little bit of protection and he's not beat up

Originally Posted by Jsteve01

That's an oversimplification to say that people who love Trevor just loved him because he was a long shot. I liked the intangibles. As I've been saying all offseason his arm was completely under valued last year when he was throwing with a bad ankle and a bad off shoulder. Still not ready to say he's the quarterback of the future after lighting it up against a decimated Cowboy secondary. But the beautiful thing is confidence breeds confidence. Good performances even against Bad teams lead to good performances against better teams. I like Trevor because I think the guy has never truly been healthy until this year he finally has a run game and his undervalued athleticism and arm strength is finally getting to show because he's getting a little bit of protection and he's not beat up

Trevor had a good day against not only a decimated Cowboys secondary, but also a strong Chargers secondary and pass rush. Just saying . . .

So how are our feelings going to be towards Trevor when he has a stinker of a game?

We've seen Trevor perform under great circumstances (run game working, and converting 3rd downs), not sure how most of us will be when he throws 3 INT's and loses a game.

I can't help but feel like the Broncos FO is happy with the way things are (obviously), but his leash is short and are looking for opportunities to work in Lynch in the future. I hate that, and I hope TS gets the chance ANY 1st rounder would get.

Originally Posted by tripp

So how are our feelings going to be towards Trevor when he has a stinker of a game?

We've seen Trevor perform under great circumstances (run game working, and converting 3rd downs), not sure how most of us will be when he throws 3 INT's and loses a game.

I can't help but feel like the Broncos FO is happy with the way things are (obviously), but his leash is short and are looking for opportunities to work in Lynch in the future. I hate that, and I hope TS gets the chance ANY 1st rounder would get.

It took more than one good game to get here, so I think it'll take more than one bad one to get to Lynch. It's not like Lynch has shown anyone anything—EVER—to argue he's "the guy." Always beware the false dichotomy: Even if Siemian just had a couple lucky games, plays like crap the rest of his career and is never anyones answer at QB, none of that makes Lynch a single iota better. "Failure is always an option" for BOTH of them.

I also don't think the FO wants to put itself in a position of vacillating between QBs without to ride with for good (or ill.) Setting aside how much everyone (but especially GMs) dreads a full blown QB controversy playing out with the fanbase and media, it's not good for the rest of the team (especially but not only the offense) to have no idea from week to week who's the (current) "starting" QB. On a certain level, even bad consistency is better than NONE.

Originally Posted by Jsteve01

That's an oversimplification to say that people who love Trevor just loved him because he was a long shot. I liked the intangibles. As I've been saying all offseason his arm was completely under valued last year when he was throwing with a bad ankle and a bad off shoulder. Still not ready to say he's the quarterback of the future after lighting it up against a decimated Cowboy secondary. But the beautiful thing is confidence breeds confidence. Good performances even against Bad teams lead to good performances against better teams. I like Trevor because I think the guy has never truly been healthy until this year he finally has a run game and his undervalued athleticism and arm strength is finally getting to show because he's getting a little bit of protection and he's not beat up

I like to make things simple, sometimes I make them over simple.

Originally Posted by Tned

Weak math, as you left out the group that didn't like him because he was an underdog, but instead because he had one of the best first years starting in the last couple decades.

Ok, so 50%/49%/1%

#soundmath

Originally Posted by Freyaka

That's pretty much the truest thing spoken in this thread.

Until this:

You're biased ... and lame.

Originally Posted by Jaded

Until this:

You're biased ... and lame.

And right, but we'll let that part slide.

In an interview titled "Under the Headset: Q&A with QBs Coach Bill Musgrave," the
question was posed to him: "Do you feel like people don't notice how well he [Siemian]
moves as a quarterback?"

His answer: "Well, he throws the ball so well and he's so accurate and has great touch
and anticipation that a lot of the time, he's not required to use his movement skills,
but there are certain times when you have to pull it down and make something happen."

Rest of interview: http://tinyurl.com/ybudpb7e

I bet Siemian could catch Chris Harris Jr from behind.

Originally Posted by Jaded

I bet Siemian could catch Chris Harris Jr from behind.

Right: Harris ran the 40 a whopping 0.05 seconds slower than Talib and is 5 years younger to boot, but he can't outrun my dead gramma and Talib can return punts.

You know there's a difference between being an iconoclast and simply contrarian, right?

Talib takes that ball to the house more than almost everyone though. He's so hood!

Originally Posted by Joel

Right: Harris ran the 40 a whopping 0.05 seconds slower than Talib and is 5 years younger to boot, but he can't outrun my dead gramma and Talib can return punts.

You know there's a difference between being an iconoclast and simply contrarian, right?

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-cant-m...six-off-Flacco

Joe Flacco don't care about big words like iconoclast and caustic.