Continued throwing at Talib made me wonder about Dak's football IQ. But I guess Dallas had to do something with their offensive snaps.
Originally Posted by Sting
I bet Flacco could play CB as fast as he is.
"Tuning ... into each other ... lift all higher”
“I’m just different!”
Sign Garbage Minshew.
Draft
1st round— Cooper Dejean CB
2nd round— Jack Sawyer OLB
3rd round— Will Shipley RB
4th round— Ricky Pearsall WR
5th round— Ladd McKonkey WR
6th round— Cash Jones RB
7th round— Carson Steele RB
Oh, valid point. I thought you meant all starters, you should take the time to be more descriptive, don't be shy. —Jaded
Never confuse frustrated candor and disloyal malice.
Love can't be coerced. —Me
"Tuning ... into each other ... lift all higher”
“I’m just different!”
Sign Garbage Minshew.
Draft
1st round— Cooper Dejean CB
2nd round— Jack Sawyer OLB
3rd round— Will Shipley RB
4th round— Ricky Pearsall WR
5th round— Ladd McKonkey WR
6th round— Cash Jones RB
7th round— Carson Steele RB
He totally had the angle, he ran PAST Trevathans "block" (guess our best coverage LB was slow as molasses in January too) and Flacco was looking straight at him when Harris caught the ball, so unless he's blind he saw the catch. The ONLY reason Flacco "caught" him was that a) he was at the 9 yard line when Harris caught it at the 1, b) Harris was up against the sideline the whole time but Flacco wasn't and c) Harris was already slowing down as he crossed the goal line (a strange definition of "caught.")
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-cant-m...six-off-Flacco
Again: Not a matter of opinion, perspective nor open to interpretation: Flacco was physically less than a foot outside the near hashmark at the 9 when Harris caught it less than a foot inside the front pylon; that's indisputable whether one feels good, bad or indifferently about either or both of them. Harris was never more than a few inches from the sideline from the moment he caught it til the moment he crossed the goal line (he even turned back toward the center of the field at the end, which probably helped Flacco "catch" him from that direction, though that part is open to debate.) Flacco passed Trevathans "block" without even slowing. And, whether from fatigue or finality, Harris was visibly moving slower when he crossed the goal line than when he caught the ball; maybe QBs who live on the coast just have more running stamina than CBs who live and breathe in Mile Highs rarefied air.
We can continue debating this, but that'll just mean I remain right and you remain wrong; I can live with that if you can.
Oh, valid point. I thought you meant all starters, you should take the time to be more descriptive, don't be shy. —Jaded
Never confuse frustrated candor and disloyal malice.
Love can't be coerced. —Me
Neighbor please! I can admit when I'm wrong, can you?
"Tuning ... into each other ... lift all higher”
“I’m just different!”
Sign Garbage Minshew.
Draft
1st round— Cooper Dejean CB
2nd round— Jack Sawyer OLB
3rd round— Will Shipley RB
4th round— Ricky Pearsall WR
5th round— Ladd McKonkey WR
6th round— Cash Jones RB
7th round— Carson Steele RB
Can and have, but this time the only error to confess is yours.
FACT: Harris was just outside our endzone and Flacco just inside our 10 at the catch, so Flacco had about a 10 yd head start
FACT: Harris was just inside the sideline and Flacco just outside the near hash mark at the catch, so Flacco had the angle
FACT: Flaccos helmet was pointed directly at Harris at the catch, so Flacco knew immediately.
FACT: Flacco never broke stride when Trevathan attempted a block, so Flacco was not blocked out of the play
FACT: Harris was visibly slowing as he crossed the goal line and Flacco wasn't, so Flacco didn't "chase him down," the play simply ended
FACT: As rookies, Harris posted a 4.48 40 time and Talib a 4.44, plus Talib's 3½ years older, so either 1) Harris has slowed a LOT, 2) Talib has actually gotten FASTER with age or 3) Harris is every bit as fast as the guy fast enough to occasionally return punts. 0.04 seconds is literally a blink of an eye. For comparison, Flacco ran a 4.84.
Again, none of those are matters of opinion nor perspective: Each is objective verifiable concrete reality. If someone wants to argue 4.45 is blazing fast or interminably slow, each is a legitimate position—but arguing it's BOTH slow AND fast for two players at the SAME POSITION is untenable. That's like saying a Camaro at 200 mph is faster than an F1 car at 200 mph "because race cars are faster than sports cars." Which weighs more, a pound of feathers or a pound of bricks?
Last edited by Joel; 09-24-2017 at 11:57 AM.
Oh, valid point. I thought you meant all starters, you should take the time to be more descriptive, don't be shy. —Jaded
Never confuse frustrated candor and disloyal malice.
Love can't be coerced. —Me
Don't stop Talibing.
Willie Brown was a Bronco for a time. Although he wasn't here long, he still was one of the best.
And you forgot about CHJ. I'd have to put him in the top five, at least above Kayvon. I'd have to
rank them this way:
1, Champ
2. Wright (T)
2. Talib (T)
4. Chris Harris Jr.
5. Brown
Though He slay me, I will trust in Him . . . (Job 13:15)
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