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    Joel did you miss the part where our offense scored 3 touchdowns? How often did that happen last year, especially against good defenses like SD?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joel View Post
    We SUCK at PA yet keep using it more than almost ANYONE?! Our playcalling's garbage: Elway should fire Kubiak again....

    Or, y'know, maybe our blocking's garbage, so any rushing success is almost entirely due to whichever starting RB will be on IR by midseason, opposing Ds ignore our toothless play fakes to just charge our QB, who will also be on IR by midseason due to the aforementioned garbage blocking. It HAS gotten better in spots, now that Elway finally bit the bullet and spent a 1st round pick on the drafts 1st OT instead of its 9th or 11th, and signed a top FA guard (even if he's currently in concussion protocol.) But the right's still a disaster area despite yet another bargain gamble on a FA starting RT (because the last one was so good we had to immediately replace him) and yet another TBD "starting" RG. At least Paradis is a decent pass blocker; without the power to run block, he's gonna need to stay solid on a lot of 3rd and 12s.

    That darned Kubiak: He's such an outdated unimaginative coach he's still screwing up a playbook he didn't even write!
    Kubiak is gone.
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    What is this, amateur hour? It's TNF against the Jets and you didn't think you'd need extra booze?

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    And I think it needs to be noted that McCoy's gameplan and play calling were excellent, outside of a few plays. Can't be perfect all the time.
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    What is this, amateur hour? It's TNF against the Jets and you didn't think you'd need extra booze?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MOtorboat View Post
    And I think it needs to be noted that McCoy's gameplan and play calling were excellent, outside of a few plays. Can't be perfect all the time.
    I was honestly impressed with the game plan and play calling. I'm very optimistic about this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MOtorboat View Post
    And I think it needs to be noted that McCoy's gameplan and play calling were excellent, outside of a few plays. Can't be perfect all the time.
    Better than mos gameplans or play calling I can remember from last season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tned View Post
    Here it is:


    • Ward’s PFF overall grade of 75.9 in 2016 was the worst of his career, ranking as the 48th best safety. The biggest weakness in his game last season was run defense. His eight missed tackles in run defense were the fourth most of any safety in 2016. When lined up within eight yards of the line of scrimmage Ward missed six tackles which were the third most of any safety.


    https://www.profootballfocus.com/new...ures-hamstring

    They did say he was the best blitzing safety, however, last year, creating 17 pressures.
    Sorry, but I think we're taking PFF a little too seriously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaded View Post
    Sorry, but I think we're taking PFF a little too seriously.
    I don't care what the stats say, what I saw with my own eyes wasn't that good. Yes, there was flashes of outstanding football, but there was also stretches of ineptitude (aka. fumbles on back to back drives that nearly blowing a 17 point 4th quarter lead).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Davii View Post
    Better than mos gameplans or play calling I can remember from last season.
    Absolutely. McCoy's strengths seem to be recognizing what his players do well and catering a plan to that. That's what I saw Monday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MOtorboat View Post
    And I think it needs to be noted that McCoy's gameplan and play calling were excellent, outside of a few plays. Can't be perfect all the time.
    I kind of had the impression the standard was perfect all the time.

    I do think he went way too conservative in the fourth quarter and that put the team in a bad position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaded View Post
    Sorry, but I think we're taking PFF a little too seriously.
    Sorry, I'm not sure you statement makes sense. Can you elaborate.

    Do you have numbers showing that Ward wasn't 4th worst among safeties in missed tackles?

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    I think are over selling the San Diego defense.

    Sure bosa and Ingram are studs but I doubt we gash another team for that many running yards again. Our offensive line still sucks and we won't always get cj magically jinking through holes for a big gain to boost our ypc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valar Morghulis View Post
    I think are over selling the San Diego defense.

    Sure bosa and Ingram are studs but I doubt we gash another team for that many running yards again. Our offensive line still sucks and we won't always get cj magically jinking through holes for a big gain to boost our ypc
    Our offensive line is actually pretty good at run blocking. Watson and Leary on the right side are both road graders.

    In my opinionated, San Diego's defense is very underrated. In addition to Ingram and Bosa they also have Corey Luiget who is one of the best tackles in football. Their secondary is also outstanding. They have a pair of all pro caliber corners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tned View Post
    Sorry, I'm not sure you statement makes sense. Can you elaborate.

    Do you have numbers showing that Ward wasn't 4th worst among safeties in missed tackles?
    **** you stats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HORSEPOWER 56 View Post
    I think that SD started sending Ingram and Bosa at the QB almost exclusively in the 4th qtr. It became a "stop the run on the way to the QB" scenario. Unfortunately, if they don't bite on play action, it's less time for Siemian to survey the coverage after the fake and find the open guy. Prolly why there was a drop off.
    Trevor was doing more damage with the pass than the running game was. They knew that.
    If the play-action isn't making the rushers hesitate a little, then two things happen: the
    play is extended by a second or so, and, as you implied, the QB has to turn and then look
    to see where the receivers are, as opposed to backing straight up and surveying the
    field at the same time. So that gives the rushers a decided edge, especially with the likes
    of Watson and Garcia playing turnstile.

    However, Trevor needs to work in his play-action. While I have largely defended him, I
    have to admit that his play-action often is not very good. The two best Broncos I've seen
    at that were Peyton Manning and (believe it or not) Kyle Orton (who had to be good since
    he wasn't blessed with much of a running game). Perhaps Trevor ought to study them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tned View Post
    Here's some offensive (very offensive) stats from PFF:

    Watson:


    3rd from the bottom in pass blocking efficiency 81.1%
    3rd from the bottom in pressures allowed in 8 (on 37 pass plays)
    Worst in the league with 4 sacks allowed (next worse is 2)


    Overall, the line was:


    5th worst in pass blocking efficcency
    Tied for 3rd worst in pressures (16 pressures in 37 pass plays)
    Second worst with 5 sacks (must have changed a run to a sack at some point)

    https://www.profootballfocus.com/nfl...ficiency#tools
    Frankly, this makes Siemians' performance even more impressive. The OL sucked at pass-blocking for years. They still suck. Bad. And yet Siemian performed at a high level, especially under pressure. And he's only a 2nd year QB. He is really showing signs of real intelligence.

    And the game is 90% mental. As Paxton proved. No amount of arm talent can overcome a lack of brain talent.

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