I saw the Pats-Broncos game from 2001 on You Tube a year ago. Kennison dropped a perfectly catchable deep pass in that one. It seemed like that is where he may have started quitting.
Two years later, before the KC@Den game late in the season, I think that Eddie had some things to say. After the game (a big Denver win), Rod Smith had some things to say about Eddie.
some are saying this was a good move because of value... shit on sale is still shit.
Kaapernick is a value signing as well and at least he can play.
Osweiler is a mediocre QB at best and refuses to accept any responsibility for his horrible play in Houston, instead blaming the team. That is not a trait of a winner, it's the trait of an immature loser.
Last edited by weazel; 09-05-2017 at 10:55 AM.
First off, BS...Kaep wants 6 millionish...Nothing value about that so that's a crappy example, though I suspect you knew that. Secondly Oz sounds happy as a clam to be back, watch his interview from yesterday and see if you still can say that. He knows he screwed up, he sounds humbled at least verbally he's doing the right things.
This has very little to do with him being a value signing, he's a QB who knows our system, has an established relationship with our wide receivers, knows their tendencies and what they are capable of. You take away the scorned lover crap and it makes sense. You like so many others are bitter because he left and feel betrayed, I get that, I felt that too, but the fact of the matter is that he makes sense as a backup. He's got experience with this team and he did well during his relief of Manning. He's not someone you ever want to inherit the reigns at QB, but he's more than capable of coming off the bench and winning a few games for us while TS heals.
People make mistakes, from what I can tell, he knows he's made one (though he doesn't feel bad about it, I mean would you with that much money involved?) and you could see by the look on his face yesterday after practice that he's absolutely thrilled to be in Denver again.
Kaepernick went 1-9 last year, and 2-6 the year before that until getting benched for Blaine Gabbert. Tired of hearing about Kaep when last offseason Elway asked the guy to take a paycut to play here, meanwhile the same Elway was willing to pay Oz $16 million+.
Knowing the team was going to sign a veteran who has taken regular season snaps, pick 1: Brock Osweiler, Christian Ponder, Matt Barkley, Luke McCown, Shaun Hill, Matt McGloin, Brandon Weeden, Colin Kaepernick, or Kellen Moore. Those were the options.
If you're taking someone off that list, and you're not taking CK for *reasons*, Brock is the pick.
So, don't sign the 'veteran' and keep the gunslinger is one possibility.
But, if you go for conventional wisdom, Ponder was never good, Barkley was a flameout from USC who was at times horrible, McCown failed when given a real shot, I thought Hill retired, I thought McGloin retired, Weededn is one of the worst plaers in the league, and Kellen Moore is a lesser version of Brock.
So, I get it.
no, that isn't it... I just think the guy is a ******* horrible quarterback. Did you not watch him play in Houston?
But as I said, he will be gone at the end of the season after replacing manranch in game 6 and throwing more INT's than TD's so it doesn't really matter because it will only help the Broncos get a better pick in the draft.
Last edited by weazel; 09-05-2017 at 11:41 AM.
That will last all of about 5 minutes after he gets into a game.
Look. I was as enthusiastic about Brock as anybody on these boards. I gave angry rants about how Elway let Osweiler walk by not locking him up in the pre-season before the 2015 season began.
But, then he want to Texas and had a full season with a top 5 defense. And he threw 16 INTs and only 15 TDs. He's more likely to throw a pick than do anything good.
Here's why: defenses started taking away things he does well, and forcing him to do things he doesn't do well.
It's like in baseball. A rookie comes into the league and starts tearing it up. He's the next 5-tool player! Everybody's excited. Only it turns out he can't hit a curve ball down and away. So, from now on every pitcher is throwing ONLY curve balls down and away - until he proves he can jack that pitch consistently.
That's what happened to Brock, and he never learned to hit the curveball. After a while he gets sent down to the minors, and winds up in Denver as a hopefully little used utility infielder. Only he still can't hit a curveball and this time for his next stop he's getting sent down to the CFL permanently.
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Now personally, I was NOT butt-hurt when Brock Osweiler chose Houston over Denver. The fans who spouted the loudest nonsense about that were the biggest hypocrites. Houston offered $6,000,000 more guaranteed $37M guaranteed, versus $31,000,000. And that $13M a season Broncos offer was offered at the last second too - too little too late. (Fortunately as it turns out!). Of course he took the money. It was SIX friggin' million dollars. If you say you wouldn't take the money too you're either retarded or lying.
I don't want Brock back not because he "betrayed the Broncos" because he didn't. Did he "diss" John Elway on his way out of town by refusing to talk with Broncos teammates or management? Well, John Elway doesn't seem to upset about it so why should I be?
Look, we all saw: the Dude was given a chance in Houston, and was benched, and couldn't beat out Mitch Trebisky (who has not impressed in the pre-season). There were reasons for all these things: He just started sucking and never stopped.
So, now we have two giraffes who can't play instead of one! Hurrah!
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