Thread: Training camp practice / press conference notes

Originally Posted by Von Kinger

We can agree to disagree. I bet you were marvelous, though.

I was tall, and I could run. So the coaches thought they might try me there.

Problem was, I couldn't throw the ball past the line of scrimmage . . .

Originally Posted by topscribe

I mean I played the position . . . well, I played AT the position.

I wasn't any good at it, but I have been there . . .

Please tell me you still have your leather helmet?

Originally Posted by Jaded

Please tell me you still have your leather helmet?

I use it for a purse now . . .

Originally Posted by topscribe

I use it for a purse now . . .

#madrespek

Originally Posted by topscribe

I use it for a purse now . . .

I can say I played at the same school as Kyle Sloter.

But it was Colorado State College back then, and I doubt he would be impressed, anyway . . .

After today's practice

Harris: 'I'm ready to roll'
Chris Harris Jr. talks about how ready he is for the regular season and where the defense still needs to improve.

http://www.denverbroncos.com/multime...7-c4909621e987

Talib seeing the 'juice' from offense
Aqib Talib talks about next week's joint practices with the 49ers and his chances for the Hall of Fame.

http://www.denverbroncos.com/multime...7-1196e01bd064

Joseph: Media's opinion on QBs doesn't matter
Head Coach Vance Joseph talks about Derek Wolfe's injury and updates the status of the QB competition.

http://www.denverbroncos.com/multime...e-34a65a626c65

I like Coach Joseph already.

Originally Posted by topscribe

I can say I played at the same school as Kyle Sloter.

But it was Colorado State College back then, and I doubt he would be impressed, anyway . . .

What years did you play there? I'm gonna guess.....'59-'63.

Originally Posted by Nomad

What years did you play there? I'm gonna guess.....'59-'63.

'64. You have to be better than I was to be a multi-year QB.

I started out at end (TE-DE, essentially), and that's where I ended up.

top, weren't you busy fighting the civil war in 63?

Originally Posted by dogfish

top, weren't you busy fighting the civil war in 63?

Don't you get into it with me, Dog . . . I'll hit you with my helmet . . .

Originally Posted by topscribe

Thank you for the vid, King. It showed me that you are in error. Yes, it was longer than 2.3 seconds, but the
key is that it was a play-action. The problem there is that in a play-action the QB has his back turned as he
retreats, due to the nature of the play. So the DE is coming around Watson, and the tackle coming up the
middle past Garcia, and Trevor had just enough time to turn around and get buried. I'm afraid this was not
on Trevor. It was on the two offensive lineman, both who absolutely whiffed their blocks.

I didn't time it, so the 2.3 seconds maybe wrong (that was Mason and someone else discussing on the radio).

However, as you say, anyone watching the video that isn't on a 12+ month Siemian bashing crusade (or has been a Broncos fan for more than say 3 minutes), can see that as you point out that he's running play action, has his back to his left side of the line. Is able to see the guy beating Watson and as he turns back to the line and starts to slide left and up, he sees the guy that badly beat Garcia.

When (or if since it's preseason) they put up the all 22 film we will see if there was anything close to an open receiver to hit in the fraction of a second that he had.

The contention he could have stepped up in the pocket is so ludicrous that I'm embarrassed to type it even when refuting it.

Originally Posted by Von Kinger

No, I mean I see veteran QB's feel pressure from the edge and move around the pocket. Even guys like Flacco and Dalton (mid-tier guys) do it.

Okay, here's the link to that clip again:

Please tell the rest of the class where Siemian should've "moved around in the pocket" in the <3 seconds between snap and sack. Not to his right, clearly, since that's where he WAS sacked. Not forward, since that's where Unrein (yes, THAT Unrein) blew by Bolles (yikes!) so quickly he actually got a piece of the sack, too. Not to his left, since that's where Green whiffed his block and CJ didn't even attempt one on yet a THIRD pass rusher racing through our backfield <3 seconds after the snap.

This isn't a debate over whether Siemian—nor ANY passer—"should've" been sacked, it's a debate over WHERE. In which case all answers are equally bad.

Originally Posted by Von Kinger

Our Kubiak back-and-forth is dead at this point.

Yeah, because he's gone—yet all your copiously cited "evidence" against him remains in Denver; why is that, exactly...?

Feel free to take your time responding: I need some time to cope with the sudden realization our projected starting LT got beat in <3 seconds by Mitch Unrein....

Reread it till you get it. It's not complicated - it's spelled out for you.

Originally Posted by Joel

Okay, here's the link to that clip again:

Please tell the rest of the class where Siemian should've "moved around in the pocket" in the <3 seconds between snap and sack. Not to his right, clearly, since that's where he WAS sacked. Not forward, since that's where Unrein (yes, THAT Unrein) blew by Bolles (yikes!) so quickly he actually got a piece of the sack, too. Not to his left, since that's where Green whiffed his block and CJ didn't even attempt one on yet a THIRD pass rusher racing through our backfield <3 seconds after the snap.

This isn't a debate over whether Siemian—nor ANY passer—"should've" been sacked, it's a debate over WHERE. In which case all answers are equally bad.

Yeah, because he's gone—yet all your copiously cited "evidence" against him remains in Denver; why is that, exactly...?

Feel free to take your time responding: I need some time to cope with the sudden realization our projected starting LT got beat in <3 seconds by Mitch Unrein....

What King has claimed multiple times is that the Oline provided a clean pocket for Siemian to "climb the ladder" and that Siemian should have stepped up into this "clean" pocket.

Yea, I had trouble typing that with a straight face, but I think he actually believes it.