Thread: Training camp practice / press conference notes

Originally Posted by NightTerror218

Carlos Henderson got injured now? Thumb?

Edit: Twitter confirmed. Not sure severity.

Probably injured thumb trying to not drop a pass/KO.

Another 2nd or 3rd round pick not contributing shit. And a WR.

Sooner or later ya gotta wonder about Tolbert, just like Barone, hasn't developed much (if anything).

Originally Posted by topscribe

King, all QBs get sacked. Elway got sacked. Peyton got sacked. Brady gets sacked. Even Fran Tarkenton,
with all his mobility, got sacked. You are coming across as if it is on the QB every time a QB is sacked.
The fact of it is, Watson and Garcia whiffed their blocks, which resulted in the sack. Trevor never had a
chance. I know you don't like Trevor, but you need to be realistic.

Every QB gets sacked - I'm not saying that's untrue. But what I'm saying is that sacks can be avoided and mitigated. That's all. And since that is true, when a QB is sacked, it's not very useful to automatically blame it on the line. TS didn't feel the pressure from the outside. We know that. He should have. He didn't. It wouldn't necessarily mean the middle pressure doesn't end in a sack. But, if TS did feel the pressure sooner the sack would be for less yardage. Is that really so unfair a point to make?

Originally Posted by Denver Native (Carol)

Troy Renck‏Verified account @TroyRenck 11m

Early word is Wolfe sprained right ankle. Annoying, painful injury but has time to recover before opener. They need him @DenverChannel

Yeah, he tweeted a photo of it. Looks like a softball attached to his ankle. He should be fine though after weeks of rest.

Originally Posted by Von Kinger

Every QB gets sacked - I'm not saying that's untrue. But what I'm saying is that sacks can be avoided and mitigated. That's all. And since that is true, when a QB is sacked, it's not very useful to automatically blame it on the line. TS didn't feel the pressure from the outside. We know that. He should have. He didn't. It wouldn't necessarily mean the middle pressure doesn't end in a sack. But, if TS did feel the pressure sooner the sack would be for less yardage. Is that really so unfair a point to make?

If you mean, "Siemian should've EXPECTED 'protection' to collapse in <3 seconds," well, given how his first starting season went, that's probably true. It was my favorite argument for NOT starting Lynch, and may remain so: Until/unless we have protection worthy of the name and run support to prevent the various "pressure" of perpetual 3rd and long, I'd prefer the first round QBotF NOT be the guy out there taking that physical and psychological pounding until reduced to a brittle spastic shell of a passer.

Why do you hate Lynch so much you want to turn him into the next Romo (or Ponder!)? Or is it that you expect all our many serious blocking problems to magically solve themselves now that we have a defensive HC instead of an offensive one who made a CAREER out of turning no-name RBs and QBs into Pro Bowlers?

Originally Posted by Von Kinger

Every QB gets sacked - I'm not saying that's untrue. But what I'm saying is that sacks can be avoided and mitigated. That's all. And since that is true, when a QB is sacked, it's not very useful to automatically blame it on the line. TS didn't feel the pressure from the outside. We know that. He should have. He didn't. It wouldn't necessarily mean the middle pressure doesn't end in a sack. But, if TS did feel the pressure sooner the sack would be for less yardage. Is that really so unfair a point to make?

Yes it is because you are making the same point that I answered. The O-line did not hold up. Case closed.

Originally Posted by topscribe

Yes it is because you are making the same point that I answered. The O-line did not hold up. Case closed.

I think this is unfair. The line held up enough for the pass rusher from the edge to not get the sack. We're never going to agree, though.

Originally Posted by Von Kinger

I think this is unfair. The line held up enough for the pass rusher from the edge to not get the sack. We're never going to agree, though.

No, because I've been there . . .

Originally Posted by Joel

If you mean, "Siemian should've EXPECTED 'protection' to collapse in <3 seconds," well, given how his first starting season went, that's probably true. It was my favorite argument for NOT starting Lynch, and may remain so: Until/unless we have protection worthy of the name and run support to prevent the various "pressure" of perpetual 3rd and long, I'd prefer the first round QBotF NOT be the guy out there taking that physical and psychological pounding until reduced to a brittle spastic shell of a passer.

Why do you hate Lynch so much you want to turn him into the next Romo (or Ponder!)? Or is it that you expect all our many serious blocking problems to magically solve themselves now that we have a defensive HC instead of an offensive one who made a CAREER out of turning no-name RBs and QBs into Pro Bowlers?

No, I mean I see veteran QB's feel pressure from the edge and move around the pocket. Even guys like Flacco and Dalton (mid-tier guys) do it.

Our Kubiak back-and-forth is dead at this point.

Originally Posted by topscribe

No, because I've been there . . .

You've been to where the edge rusher is?

Top...did you sack our QB? Bad Topscribe! Bad!

Originally Posted by Von Kinger

I think this is unfair. The line held up enough for the pass rusher from the edge to not get the sack. We're never going to agree, though.

Siemian shares a lot of the blame in that sack. There's really no doubt about that.

Originally Posted by Jaded

Probably injured thumb trying to not drop a pass/KO.

Another 2nd or 3rd round pick not contributing shit. And a WR.

Sooner or later ya gotta wonder about Tolbert, just like Barone, hasn't developed much (if anything).

Seems like he was already hurt, which probably didn't help when trying to actually catch the ball

Originally Posted by Von Kinger

You've been to where the edge rusher is?

Top...did you sack our QB? Bad Topscribe! Bad!

I mean I played the position . . . well, I played AT the position.

I wasn't any good at it, but I have been there . . .

Originally Posted by DenBronx

Yeah, he tweeted a photo of it. Looks like a softball attached to his ankle. He should be fine though after weeks of rest.

Originally Posted by topscribe

I mean I played the position . . . well, I played AT the position.

I wasn't any good at it, but I have been there . . .

We can agree to disagree. I bet you were marvelous, though.

So "on par with" isn't the same thing as saying Siemian wasn't quite as "Meh" as Lynch? Should be.