Thread: Broncos hire Gary Kubiak as scout advisor

Originally Posted by Buff

It's a nicer story if Kubiak sails off into the sunset due to health issues - I think we all just want to believe that nice clean narrative.

The reality is just slightly more complicated where he didn't want to overhaul his offense and his offensive coaching staff in the midst of also being his age and having health issues - and he is a man of such high integrity that he saw the right thing to do was to step aside.

Clearly health was an issue - but if health was the only issue then he doesn't talk about how he's not retiring and looking for his next challenge at his exit press conference.

The simplest explanation for me is that Kube's health was the main factor in his departure, but it was cemented by discussions that something had to change on offense. It explains his health episodes, the presser, this job, and the fumigation of the offensive staff this offseason.

Originally Posted by Hawgdriver

The simplest explanation for me is that Kube's health was the main factor in his departure, but it was cemented by discussions that something had to change on offense. It explains his health episodes, the presser, this job, and the fumigation of the offensive staff this offseason.

Right - I just come back to the idea that if the offense is firing on all cylinders, he's got a longtime #2 in Dennison who in theory should have been in a position to take on more of the burden - I think he finds a way to finish out his 4 year contract... But he was faced with overhauling the offense and the offensive staff, which combined with his health issues I think made the decision easier for him.

I doubt Dennison comes back as any kind of OC and I firmly believe Barone is flat out fired, and it's apparent Wade Phillips was on his way out. I think that, along with health, was why Kubiak decided to walk away.

Originally Posted by BroncoWave

Y'all overthink this shit too much.

I believe this thread is currently about twice as long as the thread about Elway's new contract. That's how we roll around here.

Originally Posted by Jaded

I doubt Dennison comes back as any kind of OC and I firmly believe Barone is flat out fired, and it's apparent Wade Phillips was on his way out. I think that, along with health, was why Kubiak decided to walk away.

I'm so curious how Dennison does in Buffalo, his first time away from Kubiak.

Originally Posted by VonDoom

I believe this thread is currently about twice as long as the thread about Elway's new contract. That's how we roll around here.

in fairness, what's to discuss about elway's contract? we all say "awesome," and move on. . .

also, please! BTB is the king of arguing pointless shit for pages. . . ironic posts are ironic. . .

Originally Posted by dogfish

in fairness, what's to discuss about elway's contract? we all say "awesome," and move on. . .

I know, that was kind of my point. Positivity is great but there's usually not much to say. The debate about conspiracy theories is much more interesting (generally, not just here)

Originally Posted by VonDoom

I'm so curious how Dennison does in Buffalo, his first time away from Kubiak.

Me too, hope he kills it because he doesn't have a single OLman that fits the mold of the ones he coached back in the Shanatan era. I need him to kill it with Cordy Glenn.

Originally Posted by Buff

Just adds to an already bizarre 8 months. It's clear now that he would have liked to continue coaching if he could have continued to do everything his way. But Elway was going to mandate some changes - likely a new OC among other things - and Kubiak decided he'd rather fall on his sword than fire Rico. So we all sat through that super weird exit press conference where we ignored the tension and awkwardness of having a retirement presser for a guy who didn't really want to retire.

I'm happy we found a role for him in the organization - but I wonder if Kubiak is ultimately happy with all of this. I feel like he's kind of being a good soldier and putting the organization first, but have got to believe that deep down he still wants to be the HC.

He's had 2 cardiac incidents in the last few years. He needed to retire, but yes, you are totally right. He didn't want to fire Clancey Barone or Rico, or any of the coaches Elway fired and preferred to step down. But, he's probably not done with football and this allows him to participate in a non-stressful way.

He could wind up back in coaching in a year or two. Those coaches are insanely driven and don't know what to do with themselves in retirement.

Originally Posted by VonDoom

I'm so curious how Dennison does in Buffalo, his first time away from Kubiak.

Well, he probably won't be invisible and have zero impact, so that will be a big step up. Rico wasn't even running the offense really. Kubiak did that pretty much himself and it was a disaster. A car wreck. An offense that is supposed to emphasize running the ball first and they couldn't convert 3rd and 1.

Originally Posted by Cugel

He's had 2 cardiac incidents in the last few years. He needed to retire, but yes, you are totally right. He didn't want to fire Clancey Barone or Rico, or any of the coaches Elway fired and preferred to step down. But, he's probably not done with football and this allows him to participate in a non-stressful way.

He could wind up back in coaching in a year or two. Those coaches are insanely driven and don't know what to do with themselves in retirement.

Hopefully scouting will help fill that void for him. It's not like scouts have bankers hours.