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  • Enforce the COC. Expand use of removal of P&R access before bans

    19 59.38%
  • Completely unmoderated. Issues spilling out of P&R will be any immediate ban.

    11 34.38%
  • Completely do away with P&R

    2 6.25%
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    Default P&R changes poll

    Here is an explanation of the options:

    1) Leave the rules alone, enforce the COC in P&R, expand usage of removal of P&R privileges be for those who break rules in P&R but not elsewhere.

    2) Completely unmoderated P&R. If this happens anyone taking P&R squabbles outside P&R, or anyone talking politics outside P&R will be immediately banned without prior warning. Ban length will start at 1 week and go up in length for subsequent infractions.

    3) Get rid of P&R altogether.

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    Tied 6-6 and i have not voted
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    i could hold the tie breaker vote.

    Let me know what donations you will give, and my office will return a private message to you.

    Donations can be discussed for me breaking the tie breaker vote.

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    I think #2 is unenforceable or at least needs an appeals process.

    What if, for example, a demonstrably religious quarterback were to suddenly be the Broncos starting quarterback? Likewise, what if a QB with a history of controversial political stances were to suddenly be the Broncos starting quarterback? What some people will see as needlessly inserting religious or political speech into threads about such a quarterback will be seen by others as harmless or "part of the Broncos' story".

    Let's say Aqib Talib leads a BLM protest march and takes a bullet in his other leg? Political or legit Broncos news? Soon, your mods will be splitting hairs and getting called out for being inconsistent.
    I miss the old Mile High Stadium.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShaneFalco View Post
    i could hold the tie breaker vote.

    Let me know what donations you will give, and my office will return a private message to you.

    Donations can be discussed for me breaking the tie breaker vote.

    For Joe, I require Comcast Free For Life Bundle.

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    So, you're like the VPOTUS, when there is a deadlock, you hold ALL the power. That is a scary thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OrangeHoof View Post
    I think #2 is unenforceable or at least needs an appeals process.

    What if, for example, a demonstrably religious quarterback were to suddenly be the Broncos starting quarterback? Likewise, what if a QB with a history of controversial political stances were to suddenly be the Broncos starting quarterback? What some people will see as needlessly inserting religious or political speech into threads about such a quarterback will be seen by others as harmless or "part of the Broncos' story".

    Let's say Aqib Talib leads a BLM protest march and takes a bullet in his other leg? Political or legit Broncos news? Soon, your mods will be splitting hairs and getting called out for being inconsistent.
    Doesn't look like, according to the vote totals at this point in time, that we'll have to cross that bridge. There would of course have to be issues like that worked on. Additionally, there would still be some level of moderation in P&R, we would still be enforcing the no nudity, not allowing posts inciting illegal activity, etc, similar to how we do in the lounge. At least that's my view of it, but again, if that comes to pass we'll deal with figuring all that out then.

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    Cool people: We got this. We don't need the police, they hate coming in here anyway.

    Everybody else: More police! Also give them RPG's with hair triggers!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Timmy! View Post
    Cool people: We got this. We don't need the police, they hate coming in here anyway.

    Everybody else: More police! Also give them RPG's with hair triggers!!!!!
    I'm surprised the poll is turning out this way given the responses in the thread. That thread seemed to be pretty heavily in favor of getting rid of moderation in there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BroncoWave View Post
    I'm surprised the poll is turning out this way given the responses in the thread. That thread seemed to be pretty heavily in favor of getting rid of moderation in there.
    Give people anonymity and things change....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Timmy! View Post
    Cool people: We got this. We don't need the police, they hate coming in here anyway.

    Everybody else: More police! Also give them RPG's with hair triggers!!!!!
    Just give me a tire iron.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BroncoWave View Post
    I'm surprised the poll is turning out this way given the responses in the thread. That thread seemed to be pretty heavily in favor of getting rid of moderation in there.
    I'm not surprised at all. It's funny how the vocal minority always seems bigger in the town hall and chases off discussion. I stopped being surprised by votes in here a long time ago. I think there's a lot of people who care but aren't passionate enough about it to "get into it" with people who they feel will argue with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davii View Post
    I'm not surprised at all. It's funny how the vocal minority always seems bigger in the town hall and chases off discussion. I stopped being surprised by votes in here a long time ago. I think there's a lot of people who care but aren't passionate enough about it to "get into it" with people who they feel will argue with them.
    Yes, and it's important that all of these non-participating lurkers shape the way everyone else posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buff View Post
    Yes, and it's important that all of these non-participating lurkers shape the way everyone else posts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buff View Post
    Yes, and it's important that all of these non-participating lurkers shape the way everyone else posts.
    How do you know they don't post in P&R? Just because they may not have taken part in the discussion doesn't mean they don't partake in P&R.

    I would say it's just as important that you, or others with the same view, think they should be the ones to shape how others post. Obviously your views are in the minority. Is what it is.

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    I'll be honest - I haven't voted yet. I am not sure how I want to vote. I'd be fine with any of the options. #3 being the least desirable.

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