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    Default Lebron James now 3-5 out of 8 NBA Finals

    Does this change anyones opinion of him? Good or bad?
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    Default Lebron James now 3-5 out of 8 NBA Finals

    no I've always said that other than the Miami team he's never had the better team let alone the better coach. I think when you look at the guys that he's compared to Kobe played with Phil Jackson Michael played with Phil Jackson Steve Kerr is obviously a fantastic coach and I can't even name other than Mike Brown the guys that have coached LeBrons teams

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jsteve01 View Post
    no I've always said that other than the Miami team he's never had the better team let alone the better coach. I think when you look at the guys that he's compared to Kobe played with Phil Jackson Michael played with Phil Jackson Steve Kerr is obviously a fantastic coach and I can't even name other than Mike Brown the guys that have coached LeBrons teams
    He had the better team (by far) against the Mavs and lost. He had the better team in Miami vs the Spurs, too. No one gets more excuses made for them than LBJ.

    He's always played in the weaker conference, too.
    Crazy how he had a good heart; but those bad, bad hands...

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    LeBron is the greatest of all time. MJ always had helpers and coaching. Anyway, they are #1 and #2. Maybe MJ is better. Leave it to experts to say. MJ is a doosh and LBJ is a dude.
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    No.
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    MJ is a doosh? I remember him being loved by almost everyone growing up. It was a special thing to see, he was extraordinarily clutch.
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    But...I figured someone was going to compare the two. So do the wins vs losses count when debating all time greats? Are we allowed to use that argument?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DenBronx View Post
    But...I figured someone was going to compare the two. So do the wins vs losses count when debating all time greats? Are we allowed to use that argument?
    Sure. But LeBron has now made nine Finals and eight in a row. That winning counts too. Michael only made 6 finals in total.

    Michael 1a. James 1b. They are the two greatest players of all time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MOtorboat View Post
    Sure. But LeBron has now made nine Finals and eight in a row. That winning counts too. Michael only made 6 finals in total.

    Michael 1a. James 1b. They are the two greatest players of all time.
    How many does he make if he didn't take that idiotic excursion playing baseball?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DenBronx View Post
    MJ is a doosh? I remember him being loved by almost everyone growing up. It was a special thing to see, he was extraordinarily clutch.
    His post-nba personality has been called into question, as well as a certain uber-cutthroatness of his sporting career. It's fine. He's a gamer...like...that's all that matters.

    And maybe it was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canmore View Post
    How many does he make if he didn't take that idiotic excursion playing baseball?
    Eight. They had nothing stopping them in their version of the Eastern Conference either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawgdriver View Post
    His post-nba personality has been called into question, as well as a certain uber-cutthroatness of his sporting career. It's fine. He's a gamer...like...that's all that matters.

    And maybe it was.
    Like punching a teammate at practice and using his Hall of Fame speech like a scorned lover.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MOtorboat View Post
    Eight. They had nothing stopping them in their version of the Eastern Conference either.
    He's probably 8-0 also. I'll take Mike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canmore View Post
    He's probably 8-0 also. I'll take Mike.
    Probably. His teams were also way better with better coaches than James' early teams. There was the consistency of coaches and teammates, partly James' fault sure, but also of the time period. Michael's later three championships were won with three Hall of Famers and the greatest coach of all time. Right now, James has never played with more than one other Hall of Famer on his team - that's Dewyane Wade, other players chances at the hall are up in the air.

    The teams they played couldn't hold a candle to the Spurs or the Warriors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DenBronx View Post
    Does this change anyones opinion of him? Good or bad?
    Not really, great player but not Jordan great. But that is just personal opinion which we have all been over.

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