Thread: McShay's Top 32: Christian McCaffrey rising up the board

Originally Posted by DT88TheGreat

Ne position that's not getting talked about as much as it deserves is tight end. This team desperately needs a tight end and this is a great draft to snag one and then you hope huerrman is ready to take off givng us two threats at tight end.

We are going to take 1-2 TE and 1-2 RB and 1 wr and 1 qb. This you can be assured of.

My money says butt and Bucky. I happen to love both as well. Bucky is similar to engram except not as amazing, but close and underrated big time. Butt is under the radar because of his injury. TE is loaded like rb. We are going to have some nice new offensive weapons this year

Originally Posted by underrated29

We are going to take 1-2 TE and 1-2 RB and 1 wr and 1 qb. This you can be assured of.

My money says butt and Bucky. I happen to love both as well. Bucky is similar to engram except not as amazing, but close and underrated big time. Butt is under the radar because of his injury. TE is loaded like rb. We are going to have some nice new offensive weapons this year

TE is hawt this year. Would love to get at least one genuine legit red zone threat out of this group. I don't really want Njoku at 20, and Howard is gone by then. I hope a baller falls to them in the 2d. Engram, Everett, Njoku, Butt, Shaheen....any of those would just rock. Even Kittle, Bucky, Leggett...this class deserves two picks at the position and the Broncos situation.

I like Njoku, he is a fantastic very smooth athlete. Reminds me of a Shannon Sharpe, will be a huge mis match and has break away speed.

Originally Posted by Von Kinger

Right, three guys who aren't analysts vs guys whose job it is to scout guys. You can see where I find the analysts more insightful and useful?

Most of the analysts who aren't high on the class aren't high on it because it lacks depth. That's the constant comment. The lack of depth doesn't mean that the top end guys are bad.

Kinger, you know I love you but I disagree with you on this. I can't remember a year when an OT wasn't drafted in the top 10, hell the top 5 really. This year there probably won't be one taken in the top 15. That does not speak to a lack of depth but good top end talent, if these top end guys were really good they'd be snatched up really quickly because of the lack of depth.

Unfortunately for us this is a very bad year to be in need of a T.

On the other side of the coin it's the perfect year to need a LT, if there were 2 guys that were super elite projected top 10 picks theThe Broncos wouldn't have a chance to land one. But since the first wave will be going in the 15-30 range the Broncos can actually get one if they chose to go that route.

Originally Posted by chazoe60

Kinger, you know I love you but I disagree with you on this. I can't remember a year when an OT wasn't drafted in the top 10, hell the top 5 really. This year there probably won't be one taken in the top 15. That does not speak to a lack of depth but good top end talent, if these top end guys were really good they'd be snatched up really quickly because of the lack of depth.

Unfortunately for us this is a very bad year to be in need of a T.

I gotta agree with you on this. There are just as many o-line hungry teams as us out there. None of them are likely to draft these guys. I can't think of the last time an o-linemen wasn't taken in the first 5 picks.

This draft is toilet water for linemen.

Daniel Jeremiah has 2 tackles rated between 20-30 in his board of top 50 players. Drafting one of those two guys in our spot is something I would be fine with

Originally Posted by Al Wilson 4 Mayor

Daniel Jeremiah has 2 tackles rated between 20-30 in his board of top 50 players. Drafting one of those two guys in our spot is something I would be fine with

I'd be fine with any of the 4 OTs, but I'm a bit scared of the one-year producers (Ramczyk and Bolles). If we do go OL, I really hope it's Lamp or Cam. At least with those guys you know you got a pro-bowl type guard at worst.

Originally Posted by Hawgdriver

I'd be fine with any of the 4 OTs, but I'm a bit scared of the one-year producers (Ramczyk and Bolles). If we do go OL, I really hope it's Lamp or Cam. At least with those guys you know you got a pro-bowl type guard at worst.

Yeah the one year of play scares me a bit. If we go OL then it pretty much has too be Cam Robinson. The guy is battle tested and the best player in the draft got owned by cam 99% of that game. I just love how he's able to hit defenders with his two hand punch and send them flying into the dirt. If you are ever beat and your last resort is a push strike that send the guy into the dirt is pretty impressive. That type of strength can't be taught, what you can teach is perfecting his technique which I dont think is bad or else a speed rusher like Myles would have abused him.

Originally Posted by DT88TheGreat

Yeah the one year of play scares me a bit. If we go OL then it pretty much has too be Cam Robinson. The guy is battle tested and the best player in the draft got owned by cam 99% of that game. I just love how he's able to hit defenders with his two hand punch and send them flying into the dirt. If you are ever beat and your last resort is a push strike that send the guy into the dirt is pretty impressive. That type of strength can't be taught, what you can teach is perfecting his technique which I dont think is bad or else a speed rusher like Myles would have abused him.

Except Garrett was fighting an ankle injury all season. Missed 3 games because of it and probably should have sat a few more. Still had 7 tackles (3.5 TFL) against Robinson.

But there is something to be said about facing guys like Garrett and Barnett...and even Allen in practice. Battle tested is a good description, I can see him being a decent LT but probably an All-Pro at OG.

Originally Posted by Hawgdriver

I'd be fine with any of the 4 OTs, but I'm a bit scared of the one-year producers (Ramczyk and Bolles). If we do go OL, I really hope it's Lamp or Cam. At least with those guys you know you got a pro-bowl type guard at worst.

I care more about measureables and technique than I do how many years they started. I'm hoping it's Bolles, Lamp or Ramczyk

Originally Posted by Al Wilson 4 Mayor

I care more about measureables and technique than I do how many years they started. I'm hoping it's Bolles, Lamp or Ramczyk

I think measureables are one of the least important factors in the equation.

What is it about them that you value?

Originally Posted by slim

I think measureables are one of the least important factors in the equation.

What is it about them that you value?

I'm guessing a good random example would be a guy like Lamp. Played LT very well in college, but due to short arms and stature...he'll be a guard at the next level. Measurables arent the only factor, but they are a factor.

Originally Posted by slim

I think measureables are one of the least important factors in the equation.

What is it about them that you value?

Length, strength, hip bend, footwork?

Originally Posted by CoachChaz

Except Garrett was fighting an ankle injury all season. Missed 3 games because of it and probably should have sat a few more. Still had 7 tackles (3.5 TFL) against Robinson.

But there is something to be said about facing guys like Garrett and Barnett...and even Allen in practice. Battle tested is a good description, I can see him being a decent LT but probably an All-Pro at OG.

Yeah I really don't care what he was fighting all year. He played, he was very effective last year as well. Im sure Robinson as well as many other player's had little nicks going on as well. His ankle didn't stop him from having a great year did it? So it shouldn't be used as an excuse for why he got completely shut down vs Robinson. Besides the 2-3 plays he made during that game he looked pretty explosive. Just couldn't keep it up because big cam put them laws on him. Lol