Thread: McCaffrey ran a 4.4 at the combine.

I want howard or mccaffery at 20. I dont think this LT vlass is worthy of 1st round picks. Why i hope other teams reach for top LT prospects in round 1 so ho2arx or mccaffery fall to us. Rather use 2nd on a RT.

Originally Posted by Von Kinger

I meant it in the general sense, but I suppose I wasn't as specific as I should be.

I think there is a small sample of all pro caliber players who returned punts, Steve Smith and Deion Sanders to name a couple.

Originally Posted by Al Wilson 4 Mayor

I think there is a small sample of all pro caliber players who returned punts, Steve Smith and Deion Sanders to name a couple.

They didn't do it consistently - which is what I'm trying to say, sir. I feel like I'm off my game and not posting like the god I am.

Originally Posted by Von Kinger

They didn't do it consistently - which is what I'm trying to say, sir. I feel like I'm off my game and not posting like the god I am.

I get what you're saying. McCaffrey would probably only do it in spot duty down the road, as he gets more involved in the offense, but as a first and second year player I hope he does it a lot.

Peter King has this today in his MMQB - he asked a bunch of analysts where McCaffrey would be picked in the draft:

My panel of experts see him going in the teens, and three of them said particularly they think he’d be the best fit in Philadelphia, as the successor to Sproles and the Swiss army knife in coach Doug Pederson’s game plan. The Eagles are scheduled to pick 14th in the first round.

The projection of my panel:
Draft Analyst Pick Projection
Dan Hatman, The Scout Academy 8
Bucky Brooks, NFL Network 14
Todd McShay, ESPN 14
Mel Kiper, ESPN 14
Matt Miller, Bleacher Report 14
Dane Brugler, NFLDraftScout.com 14
Daniel Jeremiah, NFL Network 15
Mike Mayock, NFL Network 16
Steve Palazzolo, Pro Football Focus 19


Interesting: Not a soul thought he wouldn’t be picked in the top 20.

http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2017/04/10/t...oys-peter-king

Most mocks I've seen have him going to Philly at 14. If the Broncos want him, they're going to have to trade up. I don't see it happening.

Originally Posted by VonDoom

Peter King has this today in his MMQB - he asked a bunch of analysts where McCaffrey would be picked in the draft:



http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2017/04/10/t...oys-peter-king

Most mocks I've seen have him going to Philly at 14. If the Broncos want him, they're going to have to trade up. I don't see it happening.

I can't find where I saw it, so take this as speculation unless someone can find the source, but from what I understand, we've got something in place with the Saints for the #12 pick to snag him. Again, I recognize, without being able to point to where I saw this, it's speculation, nothing more right now.

Originally Posted by Freyaka

I can't find where I saw it, so take this as speculation unless someone can find the source, but from what I understand, we've got something in place with the Saints for the #12 pick to snag him. Again, I recognize, without being able to point to where I saw this, it's speculation, nothing more right now.

I feel like I saw this somewhere too. I really hope that's not the plan. I like McCaffrey a lot but the cost to trade up to 11 (where the Saints pick) from 20 would be brutal. We have a lot of needs and can't really give up major assets for one pick.

Originally Posted by VonDoom

Peter King has this today in his MMQB - he asked a bunch of analysts where McCaffrey would be picked in the draft:



http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2017/04/10/t...oys-peter-king

Most mocks I've seen have him going to Philly at 14. If the Broncos want him, they're going to have to trade up. I don't see it happening.

Too much to give up from an X's and O's perspective, but they might do it as a net-positive franchise value thing, from the business end.

I am not surprised by the range of [8-19]. While he's just a lightweight but instinctive running back with great receiving skills, he's unlikely to make a GM look bad by drafting him. He's also at a position and seasoned enough where he can help a team earlier in his career than other prospects.

I'd love to see him in blue and orange, but not at the expense of giving up a 2d round pick to move from 20 (if you figure the JimmyJohn draft value chart is a close proxy to GM trade valuation).

Originally Posted by Hawgdriver

Too much to give up from an X's and O's perspective, but they might do it as a net-positive franchise value thing, from the business end.

I am not surprised by the range of [8-19]. While he's just a lightweight but instinctive running back with great receiving skills, he's unlikely to make a GM look bad by drafting him. He's also at a position and seasoned enough where he can help a team earlier in his career than other prospects.

I'd love to see him in blue and orange, but not at the expense of giving up a 2d round pick to move from 20 (if you figure the JimmyJohn draft value chart is a close proxy to GM trade valuation).

Who have we drafted in the second round in recent history that had been worth a crap? For me, I'm ok with that, we suck in early rounds.

Originally Posted by Freyaka

Who have we drafted in the second round in recent history that had been worth a crap? For me, I'm ok with that, we suck in early rounds.

I think quarterback is the only thing you have to hit on in the first two rounds. Denver has not done that, and that's not a good sign. At most other positions, if you miss on a first or second rounder you can find talent elsewhere. Missing on early quarterbacks makes it tough to win.

There were a lot of people saying he was at best a second or third round pick.

I see the broncos moving around this draft. We have a loaded team with a few holes so hard for 10 draft picks to make roster. Using the picks to moving up or down could let us target players.

Originally Posted by Slick

There were a lot of people saying he was at best a second or third round pick.

Well, that isn't true at this point per almost all experts. The closer we get, the more hyped he is getting. Honestly, even trading up to the Saints might not be enough because he may be gone by the Panthers at 9 I believe.

Originally Posted by Hawgdriver

Too much to give up from an X's and O's perspective, but they might do it as a net-positive franchise value thing, from the business end.

I am not surprised by the range of [8-19]. While he's just a lightweight but instinctive running back with great receiving skills, he's unlikely to make a GM look bad by drafting him. He's also at a position and seasoned enough where he can help a team earlier in his career than other prospects.

I'd love to see him in blue and orange, but not at the expense of giving up a 2d round pick to move from 20 (if you figure the JimmyJohn draft value chart is a close proxy to GM trade valuation).

To add to this, bear in mind that comp picks are tradable this year and we have quite a few of those. That will play a big part on us trading up for a specific player in this draft.

We've got an awful lot of picks to work with that we can spare to lose 1-2 of them.

There are two guys I'd be ok with the Broncos moving up to get before 20: OJ and C-Mac. The offense, once the line situation is adequate, desperately needs an interior threat in the passing game and improvement in the running game--both improve critical weaknesses. Besides the need, both are top 20 picks.