Thread: Case For or Against Joe Mixon

Originally Posted by Valar Morghulis

LOL - thats such a slim possibilty it is almost laughable.

On average, there will have been over 30 previous incidents of abuse before it becomes known outside of the relationship, and it almost never starts with a knock out punch

Cool facts that relate to other situations involving relationships. How about this situation?

Originally Posted by Valar Morghulis

because it wont be a random event, violence like this is not a first time endevour

No, it's an every Saturday/Sunday thing.

Originally Posted by Valar Morghulis

LOL - thats such a slim possibilty it is almost laughable.

On average, there will have been over 30 previous incidents of abuse before it becomes known outside of the relationship, and it almost never starts with a knock out punch

Are those statistics universal, or just your area of the world? I doubt there's too much variance - just curious.

Originally Posted by Valar Morghulis

because it wont be a random event, violence like this is not a first time endevour

Never?

It's not possible for a guy to lose his cool when being race baited and do something stupid?

Originally Posted by Von Kinger

Are those statistics universal, or just your area of the world? I doubt there's too much variance - just curious.

The western world - in the third world the number increases

Dave, are we talking about Joe Mixon?

Is so, are you bring intentionaly obtuse?

Originally Posted by Valar Morghulis

to that level - with an intimate partner, no.

So, since this is not his partner, you think it is likely that he is abusive in other arenas of his life?

He knocked her out readily and viciously - such an action strongly, if not statistically, suggests he beats other people?

Originally Posted by Von Kinger

So, since this is not his partner, you think it is likely that he is abusive in other arenas of his life?

He knocked her out readily and viciously - such an action strongly, if not statistically, suggests he beats other people?

He has to be talking about something else.

I wish English was his first language so we didn't have these issues.

Originally Posted by Hawgdriver

Cool facts that relate to other situations involving relationships. How about this situation?

Hawg you are a clever dude, and witty, so i can't tell if this was a joke, a bad analysis or just a troll post.

But just in crase you are serious, those "cool facts" are applied to all risk cases, as they are common across demographics - when they are not applied, and people think it is a one off, thats when people are killed.

The most common failing found by serious case reviews when a partner seriously harms or murders their partner - is that those who knew about it, thought it was a one off and done nothing.

Abuse is a pattern of behaviour - people grow into it over time.

Originally Posted by Valar Morghulis

because it wont be a random event, violence like this is not a first time endevour

So, for a person to do what he did -instantly swing with brutality at someone who could cause him no harm- it underlies other physical abusive issues. If it's a girlfriend, for instance, we likely would not see it.

This instance, via studies and information gleaned by professionals to uphold your assertion, serves as a slice of him as a person.

Am I getting this wrong?

Originally Posted by Von Kinger

So, since this is not his partner, you think it is likely that he is abusive in other arenas of his life?

He knocked her out readily and viciously - such an action strongly, if not statistically, suggests he beats other people?

OK - my bad, i thought they were a couple.

In that case we are talking about a straight up assault and that is not my area of expertise so i can't comment from any place of informed authoity

My gut still tells me this guy will be trouble and i hope we dont draft him

Originally Posted by slim

He has to be talking about something else.

I wish English was his first language so we didn't have these issues.

The conversation started as a hypothetical he responded to.

But he's now saying (I think) that even in this literal case it's indicative of abusive and aggressive behavior.

He just clarified that he is not saying this.

I want the guy to get the help he seems to need. Because, to be honest, that's a full grown man throwing a haymaker that would knock any of us out. At someone who poses him no threat, even if she is an *******. That's not a good vibe. Should he lose his NFL career over this? No. But he should have to interact with health care professionals, and let the experts do their thing.

Originally Posted by Von Kinger

So, for a person to do what he did -instantly swing with brutality at someone who could cause him no harm- it underlies other physical abusive issues. If it's a girlfriend, for instance, we likely would not see it.

This instance, via studies and information gleaned by professionals to uphold your assertion, serves as a slice of him as a person.

Am I getting this wrong?

no, thats pretty much it (but like i said, in my last post, i thought they were a couple - so i am no longer as 100% confident in my assertion)

Originally Posted by Von Kinger

The conversation started as a hypothetical he responded to.

But he's now saying (I think) that even in this literal case it's indicative of abusive and aggressive behavior.

No, he was just confused....even though I told him several times it wasn't his girlfriend.

It's like he doesn't even read my posts.

Originally Posted by slim

No, he was just confused....even though I told him several times it wasn't his girlfriend.

It's like he doesn't even read my posts.

this is the first one i have ever read