Thread: Why Romo Will Come To Denver

I just want to know that our starting QB has talent and ability. I'm bracing myself for the fact that Lynch won't win the job -and that will make me sad because beating TS for a starting job is something almost every starting QB in the league could do- and we will be stuck with a high floor low ceiling player.

Originally Posted by MOtorboat

Why do you disagree?

For example, had they not wanted change, they could have not lost 5 of their last 8 games.

Everyone is a professional. Using that word to try and prop up professional athletes as being superior doesn't do it for me. They are people. Most of them are younger than most other professions. It's ridiculous to assume their workplace wouldn't have many of the same issues. They aren't some mentally superior breed of people.

Originally Posted by Jaded

OH yeah, Simpson should be banned if the Broncos sign Romo.

Why? I'd hit it.

Originally Posted by Von Kinger

I just want to know that our starting QB has talent and ability. I'm bracing myself for the fact that Lynch won't win the job -and that will make me sad because beating TS for a starting job is something almost every starting QB in the league could do- and we will be stuck with a high floor low ceiling player.

That's what you get with QB's shitty college offenses. It cracks me up that people are already worried that Lynch and Goff are busts, what they're being asked to do is incredibly hard. It's almost like going from a high school offense to the NFL, and in Lynch's case it sounds like it's exactly like going from a high school offense to an NFL offense.

Dak Prescott is the outlier.

I'd rather Lynch sit until he's got the huddle/verbiage down than end up like Blain Gabbert or 100 other QB's alike.

Originally Posted by Dapper Dan

Everyone is a professional. Using that word to try and prop up professional athletes as being superior doesn't do it for me. They are people. Most of them are younger than most other professions. It's ridiculous to assume their workplace wouldn't have many of the same issues. They aren't some mentally superior breed of people.

True, they are not a mentally superior breed of people. But this isn't a corporate job. When you lose 5 of your last 8 games and miss the playoffs, naturally I think people should expect change. Since we're trying to compare this to a corporate 9-5 job, if your company had negative revenues in the last half of the year, I think it would be natural to expect some changes in the coming year. A new CEO or CFO would be a natural starting spot.

Originally Posted by Dapper Dan

Why? I'd hit it.

Oh I'd smack it up, flip it, rub it down.

Ask Cugel.

Originally Posted by Von Kinger

I just want to know that our starting QB has talent and ability. I'm bracing myself for the fact that Lynch won't win the job -and that will make me sad because beating TS for a starting job is something almost every starting QB in the league could do- and we will be stuck with a high floor low ceiling player.

Why is Siemian's 'ceiling' low? Doesn't the concept of 'ceiling' require significant NFL experience to measure? What do you measure that predicts a low ceiling with such confidence that you are putting it out there like fact?

Originally Posted by MOtorboat

True, they are not a mentally superior breed of people. But this isn't a corporate job. When you lose 5 of your last 8 games and miss the playoffs, naturally I think people should expect change. Since we're trying to compare this to a corporate 9-5 job, if your company had negative revenues in the last half of the year, I think it would be natural to expect some changes in the coming year. A new CEO or CFO would be a natural starting spot.

I really don't care about the nitpicking specifics of your reasons. I don't care who you want as quarterback. Im saying that players can perceive certain messages from what the FO does. If an organization is going with younger talent and a brighter future rather than a win now approach, what message does that send to a 35 year old player? Should he stick around or should he hope to get traded to a contender? Maybe I misread your message. I don't know.

Originally Posted by Jaded

Oh I'd smack it up, flip it, rub it down.

Ask Cugel.

I'm afraid he might show up if I ask him anything.

Originally Posted by Hawgdriver

Why is Siemian's 'ceiling' low? Doesn't the concept of 'ceiling' require significant NFL experience to measure? What do you measure that predicts a low ceiling with such confidence that you are putting it out there like fact?

I say nothing any more confidently than anyone else. But if you want an explanation, I'm going off of the various scouting reports I've read, plus what I've seen of him as a player -including games and tape breakdown- and my general opinion. If that is something that frustrates you, or you take issue with, I'm sorry. It's your ability to do things on the field. Kubiak was a QB and a very smart one. He ended his career with more INTs than TD's thrown. Harbaugh, the one from Stanford, is a brilliant HC. He was a lousy QB. There aren't too many guys out there who turned into a great QB with low physical ability. There are also guys with plenty of physical ability who busted as a player. Even the ones who tried hard. Joey Harrington was a pretty good talent, a smart guy, and he was a shitty QB.

Chad Pennington was a bad talent, a smart guy, and he turned out into a slightly above average QB. Almost every HoF QB was a big talent. Most pro bowl QB's are big talents. All-Pros are almost always big talents. I don't want a limited QB playing quarterback in Denver. Ergo, I don't really want TS. If he wins the job, so be it.

Originally Posted by Dapper Dan

I really don't care about the nitpicking specifics of your reasons. I don't care who you want as quarterback. Im saying that players can perceive certain messages from what the FO does. If an organization is going with younger talent and a brighter future rather than a win now approach, what message does that send to a 35 year old player? Should he stick around or should he hope to get traded to a contender? Maybe I misread your message. I don't know.

I guess I don't understand what you're trying to get at. My point was that whatever organizational direction John Elway wants to take the Broncos is the direction he decides to take the Broncos and he shouldn't not go that direction because he feels like it might hurt someone's feelers.

Originally Posted by Von Kinger

There aren't too many guys out there who turned into a great QB with low physical ability.

How do you measure this? I was just watching some TS high school ball, and his accuracy was surprisingly impressive. As a first year HS football player.

I'm not frustrated or anything by the way. At all. No axe to grind, bone to pick, etc. This is outside of my control and I have no reason to be hugely invested. But I do enjoy seeking reason. Explain how you measure low physical talent.

Originally Posted by Hawgdriver

How do you measure this? I was just watching some TS high school ball, and his accuracy was surprisingly impressive. As a first year HS football player.

I'm not frustrated or anything by the way. At all. No axe to grind, bone to pick, etc. This is outside of my control and I have no reason to be hugely invested. But I do enjoy seeking reason. Explain how you measure low physical talent.

I read as many different scouting reports as I can and watch the guy play in the NFL. I wish it was a science.

Originally Posted by Von Kinger

I read as many different scouting reports as I can and watch the guy play in the NFL. I wish it was a science.

I don't see proof one way or the other, as much as I wish I did. This is why I have no problem with your dismissal or whatever you want to call it of him, but still allow a possibility that he could improve and continue on the statistical trajectory he has established to now that seems at least capable of more.

Joey Harrington, there's another talented QB that came from a shit college scheme, iirc.