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    Quote Originally Posted by Cugel View Post
    We'll have none of this sunny optimism Joel! Tell us what you REALLY think.

    Elway watched the Seattle Seahawks demolish his #1-all-time-great-teams-for-the-ages and decided he wanted that team. The bragging, swaggering, defensive bullies of Seattle. So he went out and got that defense. Meanwhile the offense withered.

    But, teams can either put their big $ contracts into offense or defense, but it's impossible to do both. $18M a year they're spending on Von Miller isn't available for other players. It's close to $38 M for just Talib, Harris & Miller.

    The Seahawks have the same problem, since they are paying big money contracts to the Legion of Boom. Richard Sherman don't come too cheap at $13.6 M in 2017. So, the Seahawks made a conscious decision to skimp on the OL. They even got rid of Pro-Bowl Center Max Unger when he wanted to get paid. That crappy OL play killed their playoff run this year, but I doubt that stops them. They chose to put the money into their defense so it simply isn't available on offense to hire $10-$12 M a year OL.

    Denver is trying to upgrade without paying very much money. That's why it's been such a cluster-bomb for so long. If you're clever you get what you pay for. If you don't want to pay much you won't get much. And that's what the Broncos have. Not much.

    Not much talent. Not much consistency. Not much hope they will get much better.

    They need four new OL. They will probably get 2 at most. I can assume Donald Stephenson will be one of them. Maybe they sign a FA RG and RT. Probably not the most expensive FAs, but someone who will generate underwhelming excitement in the fan base when the signing is announced.

    They guy they get will probably have the reputation of being somewhat mediocre and will probably be somewhat mediocre. I don't see them breaking the bank for someone top shelf and there will be few such FAs and lots of teams looking, so the price will be very stiff for the top guys.
    You may well be right Elway's bought into that simplistic, one-dimensional but highly popular philosophy; there certainly is a lot of documentary evidence he has. Either way, the solution to the problem you describe is the DRAFT: That's the only way to get quality players for multiple seasons without breaking the bank. The tendency is to seek missing starters in the draft and insurance in FA or vice versa, but when a team puts all its eggs in one position that way this is the result.

    Just remember: It's all Kubiaks fault.
    Last edited by Joel; 01-22-2017 at 03:01 AM.
    Oh, valid point. I thought you meant all starters, you should take the time to be more descriptive, don't be shy. Jaded

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    Quote Originally Posted by DenBronx View Post
    I doubt they do that. His cap hit is really high.
    So is the cap hit if they trade him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cugel View Post
    That's true. But you overlook one key point.

    It's true that teams would rather wait Dallas out and force them to release Romo after the June 1 cut-off (when the cap hits from cuts get pro-rated against 2 years of the cap rather than simply accelerated).

    So, of course, the smart thing for any team that wants Romo will wait, right? Well, not exactly. You see, they would wait, but for one thing: they know Romo wants to come to Denver. So, if Romo gets a visit scheduled in Denver, he probably won't leave Denver without a contract, because that's his desired landing spot.

    So, how do these teams force Romo to come play for them when he'd rather be here? They have to trade for him. Then they hold his contract. He can re-negotiate his contract, and refuse to be traded to that team of course, but would he? Probably not, especially if it were a huge hassle and would give him a bad reputation. And doubly, especially not if the team he's traded to pays him a boat load of money.

    Did I mention that a Boat-Load of Money is usually not something you refuse. "Mr. Romo, I know you'd like to play in Denver, but they can only afford to pay you $8 M a year! That's backup money! Why don't you come to our crappy assed team that has over $100M under the cap we need to spend. We'll give you a ginormous contract, so big you won't be able to lift up the check."

    "No? You'd rather throw away $16,000,000 a year to come play in Denver Mr. Romo? Great! Welcome to the Denver Broncos!"

    Somehow I don't think that is very likely. I think he will swallow hard and think to himself: "you know, I'm scheduled to make $24,000,000 this year and I'd kinda like to get that and not take a $16,000,000 pay cut. Thanks, but no thanks."

    What would you do?
    They can cut Romo at beginning of league year and designate him as a June 1st cut.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaded View Post
    They can cut Romo at beginning of league year and designate him as a June 1st cut.
    Which is what they'll do if they're smart, as SF should've with Kaepernick: They're both white elephants no GM in his right mind would touch at that price.
    Oh, valid point. I thought you meant all starters, you should take the time to be more descriptive, don't be shy. Jaded

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    I'd love it.
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    right now: "Nah, Elway would never do that, he is smart"
    if broncos do get him "wow! great job! What a landing!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by sneakers View Post
    right now: "Nah, Elway would never do that, he is smart"
    if broncos do get him "wow! great job! What a landing!"
    Which is more about Elway than Romo: If it goes down like that, none but the Broncos faithful will be saying the latter. I mean, sure, if Romo's so eager to play in Denver he'll take $2-3M/yr (i.e. instead of $20M) to be the vet backup with starter experience in case Siemian goes down and Lynch isn't ready (if Lynch is the starter, expect Siemian to be relied on as the backup.) That's not too likely though, and there's no WAY Elway trades for his CURRENT contract.

    If, however, he FINDS a way, everyone but Broncos fans will publicly declare he's lost his ever loving mind.

    Broncos fans, of course, will just blame Vance Josephs insistence on bringing in "his" guy.
    Oh, valid point. I thought you meant all starters, you should take the time to be more descriptive, don't be shy. Jaded

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    I dont want Romo here nor do i think Denver will sign him. But please... if for whatever reason Denver does sign him its not a problem for Denver fans to support him while he is here. Besides, once he ****s up he will be thrown in the verbal trash bin just like most Bronco QB's who have ever played in Denver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northman View Post
    I dont want Romo here nor do i think Denver will sign him. But please... if for whatever reason Denver does sign him its not a problem for Denver fans to support him while he is here. Besides, once he ****s up he will be thrown in the verbal trash bin just like most Bronco QB's who have ever played in Denver.
    Sometimes we don't even wait til they **** up.

    Just like lamenting when Manning cost Denver a chance to sign a bunch of "younger" OLman that were out of the league before him.
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    I like the idea that they are going to magically make the O-Line great, they've had 4 seasons to do this and it's only become worse.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Joel View Post
    Which is more about Elway than Romo: If it goes down like that, none but the Broncos faithful will be saying the latter. I mean, sure, if Romo's so eager to play in Denver he'll take $2-3M/yr (i.e. instead of $20M) to be the vet backup with starter experience in case Siemian goes down and Lynch isn't ready (if Lynch is the starter, expect Siemian to be relied on as the backup.) That's not too likely though, and there's no WAY Elway trades for his CURRENT contract.

    If, however, he FINDS a way, everyone but Broncos fans will publicly declare he's lost his ever loving mind.

    Broncos fans, of course, will just blame Vance Josephs insistence on bringing in "his" guy.
    If Romo comes here it will probably be at the 10 Mil range, no way he does it for 2-3 mill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by weazel View Post
    I like the idea that they are going to magically make the O-Line great, they've had 4 seasons to do this and it's only become worse.
    They replaced Barone with OL coaches, so that's a start.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaded View Post
    I can't believe so many people are against this idea.
    I can't believe so many people want Romo. I think he's overrated when he was healthy, and will never even be close to that guy ever again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gregbroncs View Post
    I can't believe so many people want Romo. I think he's overrated when he was healthy, and will never even be close to that guy ever again.
    Define "overrated", cause he's been a punching bag for unreasonable fans forever.
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    It would be surprising if he did. As really the injuries are taken a toll on him. IMHO, he needs to call it quits. Before he hurts too much!
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