What are you talking about? Why would they sign Bolles to a massive, massive Contract? He's a rookie? I wanted them to go out in FA and sign a LT who could who could start so that they wouldn't have to depend on a rookie to protect a very delicate and easily injured Seimian from getting his arm torn off.
Elway preferred to draft Garrett Bolles with #20. OK. We'll see how that works out. But, starting rookies at a key position like LT is never a good idea. Right now, the starting LT is Donald Stephenson. God help us! Do you really believe that will somehow be just fine? Did you see Stephenson last year?
And Bolles is going to have to prove he's ready before he can even beat out Stephenson. Which he is not yet of course.
Many left tackles do fine as rookies - Bolles in round one at that contract is better than Okung with his massive prohibitive contract. ****, if Stephenson sucks ass, so does Okung, but he's still better because his contract isn't massive. You can either suck or have a big contract - not both.
Oh, give it a rest! NFL experts including Tyler Polumbus and Mark Schlereth both insist that Okung was mediocre not terrible. And he was mediocre. If he were as bad as fans keep insisting, then nobody would be paying him $13M a year! That's not an accident! He didn't just fall down on a big pile of money somebody left lying around!
A mediocre LT who would have cost the Broncos $11M for 1 year. That's actually well BELOW NFL average for starting LTs. Which he is.
Rookie LTs are not normally "fine" in the NFL, normally they don't start at all, which I pointed out months ago, but nobody apparently bothers to read or remember all the examples I provided of rookie tackles who were a lot better prospects than Bolles starting at RT or even LG in recent years - all in order to ease their transition to the NFL.
The fact you think it's "normally fine" shows you don't know anything!
You've been resoundingly wrong on rookie offensive linemen. I mean, yeah, the majority of rookies don't start. I mean there are 300 of them every year, which by shear math means there's limited spots. But rookies start and they are good, and it's been proven time and time again. Last year, a rookie tackle was an All-Pro.
1 - I don't care what they insist - I care about what his rankings were and what his play was. I present this: https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro...m_campaign=nfl
OK Russell Okung to Los Angeles Chargers
Actual: Four years, $53 million, $25 million guaranteed
PFF play-earned contract: Four years, $14.9 million, $4.3 million guaranteed
Grade: F
The headline figure for this contract looks insane, but though some reports had the guaranteed money at just $13.5 million, the later consensus seems to be a monstrous $25 million of guaranteed money, turning a one-year risk into a multi-year millstone for the Chargers. Okung remains a good run blocker—particularly on the backside of zone plays—but has his struggles in pass blocking, and was last solid in that regard in 2012.
We can debate his play all year long, but everyone had us pegged for taking a LT BEFORE he left in free agency, that's how bad he was. And he was in the bottom half of LT's last season after being let go of by the Seahawks.
2 - A bad LT who would have costed us a fortune - he's one of the highest paid LT's in the entire game. http://den.247sports.com/Bolt/Report...tract-51690553
3. If you insist that Okung's awful play was medicore, then you'll be taking the play of just about any rookie to be on par with that if you're trying to be logically consistent. The year before this draft yielded multiple LT's who were average or better.
4. You argued that we had to resign him and that he couldn't be replaced. At the least, we put in a cheaper alternative that will probably be on par with Okung. At best we drafted his replacement for this year and for many other years. Stop trying to defend your stance from months ago and move on. Everyone else did and that includes John Elway and the Denver Broncos.
Also, you argued that tackles are supposed to be safe picks that can start right away. You argued that so many times in multiple other threads, especially around draft time. So stick to some consistency, or better yet, admit that your stance was wrong and maybe stop worshiping 'Bronco Insiders'.
I wonder if any NFL teams engage in guerrilla warfare type free-agency tactics. Sniping players to weaken division rivals.
Originally Posted by Sting
The Plan at the moment:
Draft: Trade a 3rd and 6th this year to a team to move up and get a 2nd next year (this will happen).
Players I want:
Jake Ferguson (Jake Butt) or Jelani Woods or Jeremy Ruckert or Cade Otten (owen daniels) at TE- All 4th rd or later.
Troy Anderson LB 3rd/4th rd (yay Timmy!)
Neil Farrell, JR DL- run stuffer- bye purcell
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