Thread: Kubiak would be gone after this year without Wade

Originally Posted by slim

I liked it when our offense was the most dynamic ever and we got embarrassed in the SB.

That was awesome!

I liked when we played that same team to a tie in regulation the following season with all starters healthy.

Originally Posted by CrazyHorse

The return in the Super Bowl?

So we are going with one instance of dumb ******* luck as his "lot of plays". Alrighty then.

Originally Posted by Mike

So we are going with one instance of dumb ******* luck as his "lot of plays". Alrighty then.

Not sure. I'm just trying to come up with examples.

At this point I'd be fine with Kubiak being gone, as long as they found a way to keep Wade at Defensive Coordinator. Kubiak is supposed to be an offensive guy, yet since he's been here the offense has been pathetic.

Originally Posted by gregbroncs

At this point I'd be fine with Kubiak being gone, as long as they found a way to keep Wade at Defensive Coordinator. Kubiak is supposed to be an offensive guy, yet since he's been here the offense has been pathetic.

The offense has been poor because we don't have an o-line capable of running his offense. This is partially on him, but Elway deserves some credit for this fact. Elway is a great GM, but he cannot draft and develop o-line talent. It's one of his biggest areas of weakness.

Everyone seems to forget just a few years ago, we had the best offense the league has ever seen, and got blown out in the SB. At that point, Elway focused on the defense (even though we had a few key players out for that game), and went on to have a historic defense two years later. At the expense of the offense.

I am very confident they'll fix the offense, and it starts with getting key players in vital positions. It's all not on Kubiak. It's not all on Siemian either. It's a combination of the OL not being able to block for the running game, having a 1st year starter at QB, having our main RB do down with a season ending injury, the free-agent OL players not playing like they should be, etc. etc.

You'd think that the Broncos are the Browns, for crying out loud. We just won the damn Superbowl, and you all act like there's a bunch of hacks that run this team.

Talk about spoiled. You all sound like the democrats at this point.

Originally Posted by BroncoJoe

You all sound like the democrats at this point.

Damn dude, thats really dishing out the hatorade. lmao

Originally Posted by MOtorboat

It Kubiak is fired, Phillips is probably gone.

Wonder if Kubiak walks if Dennison goes.

"This is the worst offense in my 38 years of covering the Denver Broncos"-- Sandy Clough.

Originally Posted by Hawgdriver

Wonder if Kubiak walks if Dennison goes.

That's the speculation from the likes of Nalen and Schlereth, he might be willing to dump Barone but even that's debatable.

Originally Posted by Jaded

"This is the worst offense in my 38 years of covering the Denver Broncos"-- Sandy Clough.

I don't know if it's the worst I've seen in my more than 38 years of watching, but if it's not, it's in the discussion. Maybe the strike year was worse.

There is a certain inflexibility in mindset, tactics, and offensive template that has no place on NFL battlegrounds.

Originally Posted by spikerman

I don't know if it's the worst I've seen in my more than 38 years of watching, but if it's not, it's in the discussion. Maybe the strike year was worse.

It's the worst in recent memory. I remember being convinced that it couldn't be worse than last season...it is.

It's by far the worst OL I can remember, I can say that with 100% certainty.

Originally Posted by NightTerror218

You could also put blame on elway for the lack of OL talent. In his tenure all but 1 1st pick in draft has been on defense. OL has been picked up in 2nd or 3rd and of thise picks none are worth a damn.

When the Broncos lost the 2013 SB, Elway decided that Defense wins championships, and that he needed to concentrate on building a dominant defense. That meant trying to get by with mediocre OL and virtually no high draft picks on Offense. Cody Latimer was a 2nd round pick, but he's a bust.

Right now, they have 2 talented players on offense: D.T. & Sanders. C.J. is another, but he's a RB and on IR. Who knows about next season? I could argue that the defensive backups like Zaire Anderson, Corey Nelson and Todd Davis are better than anybody on the Offense except Sanders & D.T.

Peyton Manning was able to cover up for a lot of offensive deficiencies. Well, he's not here this season and it shows.

Well, if the Broncos fail to make the playoffs this year (virtually a given at this point) they will be drafting in the teens rather than the late 20's or in the 30's like the last 4 years. So, hopefully they can draft some better players.

But, virtually all the busts have been offensive picks and FAs. Their defensive acquisitions have mostly been great - like the Darien Stewart pickup.

Elway has shown a consistent lack of ability to draft offensive players.

OFFENSIVE DRAFT PICKS:

2016:
RB Devontee Booker, 4th
G Connor McGovern, 5th
FB Andy Janovitch

2015:
T Ty Sambrailo, 2nd
TE Jeff Heuerman, 3rd
C Max Garcia, 4th

2014:
WR Cody Latimer, 2nd
OL Michael Schofield, 3rd
C Matt Paradis, 6th

2013:
RB Montee Ball, 2d
WR Tavaris King, 3rd
OL Vincent Painter, 5th

2012:
QB Brock Osweiler, 2nd
RB Ronnie Hillman, 3rd
C Phillip Blake, 4th

Just look at that litany of failure!

Originally Posted by spikerman

I don't know if it's the worst I've seen in my more than 38 years of watching, but if it's not, it's in the discussion. Maybe the strike year was worse.

It would be hard to say that any offense with John Elway was worse than this. With Elway (or Manning) even if there's not a lot of talent on Offense, they could make plays and at least they always had the team in the right play for what the defense was showing.

Right now, a mediocre QB in Trevor Seimian is NOT making up for other deficiencies on the Offense, so the team is unable to score. At all. They went literally 1/2 a game yesterday without a first down.