Thread: The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly: Week 6. Will the real Denver Broncos please stand up?

Originally Posted by BroncoWave

One thing I've noticed people saying a lot is that if we don't make a few uncharacteristic mistakes, we likely win. On the flip side of that, the Chargers muffing 2 kicks led directly to 10 of our 13 points. So if not for the Chargers making those mistakes, we never even make the game close. IMO, we were lucky to lose by only 8, because it really wasn't even that close.

If not for the hold on Okung or the DT fumble we likely have 10-14 points....Then the game is never close as we win.

If if if if....

If you dad had tits hed be your mother.

Originally Posted by BroncoWave

One thing I've noticed people saying a lot is that if we don't make a few uncharacteristic mistakes, we likely win. On the flip side of that, the Chargers muffing 2 kicks led directly to 10 of our 13 points. So if not for the Chargers making those mistakes, we never even make the game close. IMO, we were lucky to lose by only 8, because it really wasn't even that close.

True, but those are the characteristic mistakes that SD makes every game. We're just the first team that couldn't capitalize on them. That's what's so disturbing. We could've won this game. We shot ourselves in the foot more than SD stopped us. Drive killing penalties and 2 costly fumbles made all the difference.

Originally Posted by HORSEPOWER 56

True, but those are the characteristic mistakes that SD makes every game. We're just the first team that couldn't capitalize on them. That's what's so disturbing. We could've won this game. We shot ourselves in the foot more than SD stopped us. Drive killing penalties and 2 costly fumbles made all the difference.

I keep going back to the holding penalty on that incredible CJ touchdown. That was the final straw in this game, IMO (combined with the DT fumble a few plays later, obviously). If they score there, it's 21-16 with 4:20 to go or so, and we have a chance to bring it within three points. Even if we miss, the defense was clamping down and we had all three timeouts. Could've really put the pressure on them.

Originally Posted by Lynch12

If he's hurt then why is he playing? Why risk prolonging the banged up shoulder this early in the season? The shoulder surely didnt get better by playing a game and taking more hits, with the extra time do we start lynch and truly let Trevor get healthy?

Because he still far outplayed Lynch.

Originally Posted by underrated29

If not for the hold on Okung or the DT fumble we likely have 10-14 points....Then the game is never close as we win.

If if if if....

If you dad had tits hed be your mother.

I'm not the one who started playing the if game. I'm just saying the Chargers had "ifs" just like we did, which at the end of the day cancel out and still leave us with the deserved result last night.

Originally Posted by Buff

Based on what? Give us a specific critique.

I get annoyed with people playing fan police - but man, it seems like ya'll done gone crazy up in here.

I admit that I am biased. Dennison has never done anything for the team going back as the coach to a shitty ST group back in the day. He has always been a part of the good ol boys and was protected by Shanahan's loyalty and then by Kubiaks.

As to the points, he is the offensive coordinator to one of the worst offenses in the league. There is no flow or rhythm to the offense. The plays are one dimensional and are easy for the defense to read and counteract. This isn't against good defenses. This is against Indy (30th ranked defense), SD (31st defense), Atlanta (26th defense), TB (21st). Granted we won two of those games, but only because the defense put us there.

The offense last night was as vanilla as it gets. No slants, 1 pitch, no rb screens, 1 wr screen (?), no quick drop passes. It looked like they were literally calling the same handful of plays every series despite it not working. We didn't get the TE involved at all until the end. The only times the oline might have been successful they were penalized. This offense doesn't have any sort of identity and doesn't look like it knows who they want to be. I lay that at the feet of the offensive coaches.

Without Wade Phillips this team would be a 4 win club.

Originally Posted by HORSEPOWER 56

True, but those are the characteristic mistakes that SD makes every game. We're just the first team that couldn't capitalize on them. That's what's so disturbing. We could've won this game. We shot ourselves in the foot more than SD stopped us. Drive killing penalties and 2 costly fumbles made all the difference.

I don't know, this isn't even close to the first time in the last two seasons we've committed bone headed costly penalties. It's just one of the first times it's cost us a game. We're lucky it hasn't cost us more games.

The good:
Chargers and Chiefs are each 2 win teams.

The bad:
The Faiders are a 1 loss team and in command of the AFC West.
Our 15 road game win streak against division rivals is ended.

The Uuuuuugly:
Orange Footie Pajamas. Nuff said!
(Power Blue unis would have led to a win. Just sayin')

Thinking more about last night's game, the thing that irritates me the most (and it's been a trend this year) is throwing these little 4 and 5 yard routes on 3rd and 10. I get that Siemian is trying to be safe with the ball and not make any mistakes, but sometimes when you are in the second half of a game and trailing, you just have to take a chance and trust your WR down the field to make a play.

Originally Posted by BroncoWave

Thinking more about last night's game, the thing that irritates me the most (and it's been a trend this year) is throwing these little 4 and 5 yard routes on 3rd and 10. I get that Siemian is trying to be safe with the ball and not make any mistakes, but sometimes when you are in the second half of a game and trailing, you just have to take a chance and trust your WR down the field to make a play.

There was one late in the 3rd quarter that especially irked me and I had the same thought. There is literally zero strategic gain to get 6 yards on 3rd and long - especially when you're trailing by 2 scores on the road. Try to force one at that point or throw a 50/50 ball up for grabs.

Originally Posted by BroncoWave

Thinking more about last night's game, the thing that irritates me the most (and it's been a trend this year) is throwing these little 4 and 5 yard routes on 3rd and 10. I get that Siemian is trying to be safe with the ball and not make any mistakes, but sometimes when you are in the second half of a game and trailing, you just have to take a chance and trust your WR down the field to make a play.

Most of the time last night he didn't have time to throw more than 5-6 yard passes.

#patchworkOLine

Originally Posted by EastCoastBronco

Most of the time last night he didn't have time to throw more than 5-6 yard passes.

#patchworkOLine

Granted he's young and this is more of a trait of veteran QBs, but he needs to get better at shifting in the pocket to buy himself that extra half second for guys to get open. I read on twitter today that he was only pressured on 13.2% of his dropbacks last night, so I think it's a bit overstated how little time he had to throw.

I really struggle with this "get lynch out there because he is the qbotf" attitude simply because of his draft position and the fact he is big, athletic and had a stong arm

Tebow had all of those things.

The other thing they both possess is a poor football iq, zero time in a professional offense, zero snaps under centre, a limited play book and a shit load of hype

Lunch has stupid facial hair also

Ride with Trevor.

Originally Posted by Valar Morghulis

I really struggle with this "get lynch out there because he is the qbotf" attitude simply because of his draft position and the fact he is big, athletic and had a stong arm

Tebow had all of those things.

The other thing they both possess is a poor football iq, zero time in a professional offense, zero snaps under centre, a limited play book and a shit load of hype

Lunch has stupid facial hair also

Ride with Trevor.

I think most people were suggesting that if Trevor were still still hurt, which it's now being reported that he was, he shouldn't have played last night. He very obviously wasn't able to throw the ball down the field with any sort of accuracy at all. That's not to say he should lose his job altogether.

Originally Posted by BroncoWave

I think most people were suggesting that if Trevor were still still hurt, which it's now being reported that he was, he shouldn't have played last night. He very obviously wasn't able to throw the ball down the field with any sort of accuracy at all. That's not to say he should lose his job altogether.

Maybe they were, I maybe picked up wrong or have posted in the wrong thread

although I would still have rather went with Trevor than that pirate lookalike lay night. Injury or not