"Tuning ... into each other ... lift all higher”
“I’m just different!”
Sign Garbage Minshew.
Draft
1st round— Cooper Dejean CB
2nd round— Jack Sawyer OLB
3rd round— Will Shipley RB
4th round— Ricky Pearsall WR
5th round— Ladd McKonkey WR
6th round— Cash Jones RB
7th round— Carson Steele RB
Evidently he's just fine with that: We dumped Sanchez and signed Austin, while TJ Yates remains sitting by his phone waiting for 32 calls that never come. Frankly, I think the Rams would be better off with him than with Keenum, but NEITHER'S coming to Denver any time soon. The kind of QBs Houstons FO allowed him to employ are the primary reason they no longer employ HIM, which worked out pretty well for him and us—but not for the Texans.
Oh, valid point. I thought you meant all starters, you should take the time to be more descriptive, don't be shy. —Jaded
Never confuse frustrated candor and disloyal malice.
Love can't be coerced. —Me
"Like" is a big word; acknowledging Yates is better than Schaub isn't exactly setting the bar high, but here's Houstons draft history. A person could go blind looking for QBs. Yates is actually the MOST RECENT they drafted, right after Keo: In 2011. That might make sense if they had someone like Rodgers, but look what they rolled through the season and into the playoffs with last year.
7 Brian Hoyer 15 Ryan Mallett 6 T.J. Yates 5 Brandon Weeden
Or the previous year.
14 Ryan Fitzpatrick 17 Case Keenum 15 Ryan Mallett
Can't blame any of that on Kubiak: He wasn't even THERE. In the Texans' 15 year existence they've drafted a total of FIVE QBs, only TWO before the 5th (i.e. Carr #1 overall in 2002, Dave Ragone in the 3rd in 2003, BJ Symons in the 7th in 2004, Alex Brink in the 7th in 2008 and Yates in the 5th in 2011.) That team should thank God, Kubiak, Wade and Dennison for EVER carrying it to ANY playoff, let alone WINNING a couple (though maybe Marvin Lewis deserves credit for that last part. )
EDIT: They've drafted six QBs in 15 years, I just overlooked Tom Savage in the 4th in 2014. The year after Schaubs implosion left with nothing but Yates and Keenum under center, and a 2-14 record that secured the #1 overall pick—which they spent on Clowney, and look how well THAT'S worked out ("Super Mario" Bros. 2?)
Last edited by Joel; 09-11-2016 at 11:03 AM.
Oh, valid point. I thought you meant all starters, you should take the time to be more descriptive, don't be shy. —Jaded
Never confuse frustrated candor and disloyal malice.
Love can't be coerced. —Me
"Tuning ... into each other ... lift all higher”
“I’m just different!”
Sign Garbage Minshew.
Draft
1st round— Cooper Dejean CB
2nd round— Jack Sawyer OLB
3rd round— Will Shipley RB
4th round— Ricky Pearsall WR
5th round— Ladd McKonkey WR
6th round— Cash Jones RB
7th round— Carson Steele RB
Keenum led his team to zero points last night, on 17 for 35 passing for 130 yards. So glad we stayed away.
Just reviewing how the Broncos tried to trade for Keenum some time ago. Of course, their
interest was a bit greater this year after this last season.
Though He slay me, I will trust in Him . . . (Job 13:15)
Forgot about that.
Kubiak will doom this regime.
Bump this in another two years.
"Tuning ... into each other ... lift all higher”
“I’m just different!”
Sign Garbage Minshew.
Draft
1st round— Cooper Dejean CB
2nd round— Jack Sawyer OLB
3rd round— Will Shipley RB
4th round— Ricky Pearsall WR
5th round— Ladd McKonkey WR
6th round— Cash Jones RB
7th round— Carson Steele RB
"Tuning ... into each other ... lift all higher”
“I’m just different!”
Sign Garbage Minshew.
Draft
1st round— Cooper Dejean CB
2nd round— Jack Sawyer OLB
3rd round— Will Shipley RB
4th round— Ricky Pearsall WR
5th round— Ladd McKonkey WR
6th round— Cash Jones RB
7th round— Carson Steele RB
Dude, I’m not even a Schaub honk but if you’d rather have Keenum or Yates over Schaub you need to find a new way to make a living.
There’s 100-or-more Keenum’s and Yates in every single draft.
"Tuning ... into each other ... lift all higher”
“I’m just different!”
Sign Garbage Minshew.
Draft
1st round— Cooper Dejean CB
2nd round— Jack Sawyer OLB
3rd round— Will Shipley RB
4th round— Ricky Pearsall WR
5th round— Ladd McKonkey WR
6th round— Cash Jones RB
7th round— Carson Steele RB
So 100 other QBs finished a season with the top QBR in the league. mmkay . . .
But it's really not a very fair comparison. Schaub has been in the league for 13 years so
he has had far more time to prove himself than has Keenum. Schaub did go to the Pro
Bowl twice, and he even was MVP in one of them. But in those 13 years, he was worth a
hoot in six of them. Two of those years were pretty good, and the others were pretty
journeyman. The other seven years, he was backup quality or just plain scrub.
During these last four years, it is Schaub who really should have found some other way
to make a living.
It shouldn't be hard for Keenum's career to exceed Schaub's over 13 years . . .
Though He slay me, I will trust in Him . . . (Job 13:15)
Schaub didn’t have to spend years as a backup, because he wasn’t garbage. I’m not saying Schaub was great, I’m saying Keenum is a backup talent that can be found every stinking draft. All they need is a sentimental old backup QB looking to live vicariously through them for 6 years.
Btw, QBR? I’m not familiar with this argument, do tell?
Last edited by Simple Jaded; 03-18-2018 at 10:32 PM.
"Tuning ... into each other ... lift all higher”
“I’m just different!”
Sign Garbage Minshew.
Draft
1st round— Cooper Dejean CB
2nd round— Jack Sawyer OLB
3rd round— Will Shipley RB
4th round— Ricky Pearsall WR
5th round— Ladd McKonkey WR
6th round— Cash Jones RB
7th round— Carson Steele RB
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