Thread: Ray Rice: I'll donate salary if I get another NFL chance

Originally Posted by weazel

elevator operator?

Originally Posted by FanInAZ

Let's be honest, the NFL "moral standards" are subject to the talent level of the offending party. So the question is, does Rice have enough talent to blot out his off field transgressions?

No. We went through this last year: He's pushing 30 at a grueling position that goes downhill after 30 even faster than most, plus he's a pariah who was nothing special in the first place. He had one or two good years as a roleplayer on an overrated team that had one exceptionally lucky (or something...) season when a double-murderer announced retirement before the playoffs even started. If that earns him a second chance, it earns Rahim Moore a HoF bust.

Originally Posted by Joel

No. We went through this last year: He's pushing 30 at a grueling position that goes downhill after 30 even faster than most, plus he's a pariah who was nothing special in the first place. He had one or two good years as a roleplayer on an overrated team that had one exceptionally lucky (or something...) season when a double-murderer announced retirement before the playoffs even started. If that earns him a second chance, it earns Rahim Moore a HoF bust.

OK, I need glasses. Nevertheless, he has 2 years of no wear & tear, or is that 2 years of rust? Rust or rest, what does he 1st and foremost have?

If the NFL will hire me I'll donate half of my salary.

Originally Posted by Dapper Dan

If the NFL will hire me I'll donate half of my salary.

Yeah, but only if you are a wife batterer

Originally Posted by Valar Morghulis

Yeah, but only if you are a wife batterer

Can I start with my ex?

Originally Posted by Valar Morghulis

Yeah, but only if you are a wife batterer

battered wives are delicious

Originally Posted by weazel

battered wives are delicious

Blue Berry or Buttermilk Pancake?

Originally Posted by FanInAZ

OK, I need glasses. Nevertheless, he has 2 years of no wear & tear, or is that 2 years of rust? Rust or rest, what does he 1st and foremost have?

Lots of baggage, an odometer about to roll over, a resume that was always mediocre AND lots of rust: No sale. I mean, maybe for the vet minimum if a team's really thin at RB, but I doubt he gets more than a games worth of Sunday snaps the rest of his life. Just MHO, FWIW.

I have a problem reconciling the fact that so many athletes with domestic disturbances, even multiple domestic disturbances, and arrests and even convictions are playing across the spectrum of sports and yet this is the guy who is blackballed because people saw it on video. There is no difference except for that, and I can't reconcile in my own mind whether I should be appalled and call for him to be blackballed continuously while others continue to get second chances.

Damn. Mo was determined to talk about black balls today.

Originally Posted by MOtorboat

I have a problem reconciling the fact that so many athletes with domestic disturbances, even multiple domestic disturbances, and arrests and even convictions are playing across the spectrum of sports and yet this is the guy who is blackballed because people saw it on video. There is no difference except for that, and I can't reconcile in my own mind whether I should be appalled and call for him to be blackballed continuously while others continue to get second chances.

1 in 4 women experience intimate partner violence in the US, 1 in 3 worldwide. 1 in 5 children witness their mother being assaulted by their father. The correlation between abusing your partner and children is huge.

Statistically.......People on this forum will have abused their partner.

But because it usually happens behind closed doors, often it's easy to ignore that as just a statistic. This video really brought it to light, so I do understand your internal dilemma.

Originally Posted by Valar Morghulis

1 in 4 women experience intimate partner violence in the US, 1 in 3 worldwide. 1 in 5 children witness their mother being assaulted by their father. The correlation between abusing your partner and children is huge.

Statistically.......People on this forum will have abused their partner.

But because it usually happens behind closed doors, often it's easy to ignore that as just a statistic. This video really brought it to light, so I do understand your internal dilemma.

That doesn't explain, for those who have been accused and convicted, why they get second chances and Ray Rice has not. And that's my internal struggle. What about this makes his case unforgiveable? Just a video? If so, that's a really bad reason.

Originally Posted by MOtorboat

That doesn't explain, for those who have been accused and convicted, why they get second chances and Ray Rice has not. And that's my internal struggle. What about this makes his case unforgiveable? Just a video? If so, that's a really bad reason.

Oh yeah, that was my whole point but I missed it lol.

Because we watched this, it is more real than reading about an accusation or a conviction.
Because we watched it, we can't turn a blind eye.

We should feel like this over every abuse case, but we don't. We ignore a lot of them. We ignore and minimise them because we don't see it, and largely don't want to see out. This case took away that luxury.

I hope he gets a shot

Originally Posted by MOtorboat

That doesn't explain, for those who have been accused and convicted, why they get second chances and Ray Rice has not. And that's my internal struggle. What about this makes his case unforgiveable? Just a video? If so, that's a really bad reason.

Watching this also made it hard to blame the victim, which is what many do.

Although.... even in this case she still took a lot of heat for not leaving, like that somehow justified getting assaulted in the first place.