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    Let's discuss the fight game and the way it's changed over the years. The passing of Ali caused me to reflect on his influence on the fight game.

    Please don't bring politics into this.

    I would encourage anyone who has an interest in boxing or mma to watch tonight's ufc fight when considering this topic, and specifically Dominic Cruz.

    Cruz is a great example of how the fight game has changed. 20 years ago mma was dominated by grapplers and guys who excelled at ground and pound and submissions. Cruz is an example of how that has changed. Today's mma fight game is dominated by great strikers and those who aren't good on their feet don't go very far.

    Now back to Cruz; Cruz is a former collegiate wrestler who excels at the stand up game. He is one of the more entertaining strikers you will see and I encourage you to watch him. He's a very unorthodox fighter. When asked where he learned his footwork (which is yet unmatched in his weight class ) he said he has watched hours of Muhammed Ali tape.

    I find it fascinating how Ali's fighting style has affected the fight game, especially outside of boxing.

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    I believe the fake fights killed boxing, the whole Foreman comeback fight string was extremely saddening. I used to love watching the fights, I still do but it just doesn't have the same magic anymore.


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    Quote Originally Posted by weazel View Post
    I believe the fake fights killed boxing, the whole Foreman comeback fight string was extremely saddening. I used to love watching the fights, I still do but it just doesn't have the same magic anymore.
    I lost a lot of interest in boxing as well. The only guy worth watching these days is Golovkin, IMO.
    However, I really enjoy mma.

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    Kevin Casey, on the day of his father in law's passing, fought to a draw.

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    I love watching old fight films. When I was on a three week deep-sea fishing trip I binged a couple 6-volume box sets of MMA fights. I boxed in college. I don't really keep up with any current fighters.

    I think the fights that have stayed with me the most are the Liston v. Clay and Mancini v. Kim fights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawgdriver View Post
    I love watching old fight films. When I was on a three week deep-sea fishing trip I binged a couple 6-volume box sets of MMA fights. I boxed in college. I don't really keep up with any current fighters.

    I think the fights that have stayed with me the most are the Liston v. Clay and Mancini v. Kim fights.
    My favorite boxer was Roy Jones Jr. The way he predicted finishing Pazienza was classic. I still think he's the best pound for pound fighter ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Al Wilson 4 Mayor View Post
    My favorite boxer was Roy Jones Jr. The way he predicted finishing Pazienza was classic. I still think he's the best pound for pound fighter ever.
    Just watched the Pazienza fight. Jones' footwork/hipwork is something else..super disciplined. Besides his speed, he's so compact with his hips when he strikes with force, gotta be tough to defend. I mean, he generates power without excessive hip twist, and when he does strike hard, it's crazy fast and constrained in the hips. It's like watching a jaguar tightly coiled. Watching the Toney fight now.
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    Watching some Salvador Sanchez fights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawgdriver View Post
    Watching some Salvador Sanchez fights.
    I'm watching the UFC fights on fox sports right now. The next kid up is pretty fun to watch (Thomas Almeida). He likes to throw a lot of switch kicks and spinning back fasts. Fighters who take risks like that are fun to watch, if they know how to time it.

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    Watching some boxing footage, notice that Don King and Don Trump seem to be buds back in the day. #moneyaddicts
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    woops...missed your warning about bringing in politics. disregard lol. I just found it interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawgdriver View Post
    woops...missed your warning about bringing in politics. disregard lol. I just found it interesting.
    No worries bro, the only reason I put that in the OP is there were some pretty heated debates about Ali and his political stances on the message board the day I started the thread and I didn't want it to get derailed.

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    He's the GOAT and one of the greatest men who has ever lived in America.
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    Dominic Cruz is fighting tonight. He defends his title in the co-main event. I'm more interested in watching his fight than Rousey fight.

    Cody Garbrandt is the contender for Cruz's belt. It will be well worth watching for anyone interested in the fight game.

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    Thanks bro. I'm going to catch it at the Boardroom off Broadway. You got plans?
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