Thread: Gronk, not Von, is on Madden 17

Originally Posted by Al Wilson 4 Mayor

Lol, Mack is rated higher than Miller....what?

I hadn't heard that. Wow

Originally Posted by artie_dale

Von took out a certain athletic someone in oh... his last game, in the open field. Von was covering a rcvr and Cam scrambled to the right, got the first down and tried to juke Von, but you can tell Von followed Cam's hips, grasped him and body slammed him out of bounds. That's an open field tackle, isn't it?

Yes, he was tracking down a QB, that's what sack aces do. OLBs may try to cover a TE off the LOS, but they're not going to try to keep up with a WRs.

Originally Posted by artie_dale

Von took out a certain athletic someone in oh... his last game, in the open field. Von was covering a rcvr and Cam scrambled to the right, got the first down and tried to juke Von, but you can tell Von followed Cam's hips, grasped him and body slammed him out of bounds. That's an open field tackle, isn't it?

how is that the same as a LB trying to cover a WR down field?

Originally Posted by artie_dale

Von took out a certain athletic someone in oh... his last game, in the open field. Von was covering a rcvr and Cam scrambled to the right, got the first down and tried to juke Von, but you can tell Von followed Cam's hips, grasped him and body slammed him out of bounds. That's an open field tackle, isn't it?

In that same SB, Von also covered a receiver better at the left front pylon than Pro Bowl CB Talib did at the right front pylon; Von's a Compleat 3-4 OLB, able to rush, stop the run AND cover. What did Gronk do during the SB, other than drink beer and eat chips because SOMEONE beat him two weeks earlier.

Originally Posted by FanInAZ

Yes, he was tracking down a QB, that's what sack aces do. OLBs may try to cover a TE off the LOS, but they're not going to try to keep up with a WRs.

Except Von did just that in the very same game, and did it well. Not a TE over the middle: A WR down the sideline trying to score—emphasis on "trying."

Originally Posted by Joel

Except Von did just that in the very same game, and did it well. Not a TE over the middle: A WR down the sideline trying to score—emphasis on "trying."

Are you talking about the Steelers game in the regular season? Its possible that a OLB could end up on a #3 or 4 receiver, but if he on a pro bowl WR, something went wrong with the D play call.

Originally Posted by FanInAZ

Are you talking about the Steelers game in the regular season? Its possible that a OLB could end up on a #3 or 4 receiver, but if he on a pro bowl WR, something went wrong with the D play call.

I never said a #1/2 WR, no; I'm talking about this:

3	11:07	2	11	DEN 26	Cam Newton pass incomplete deep right intended for Jerricho Cotchery (defended by Von Miller)	13	7
3	11:00	3	11	DEN 26	Cam Newton pass incomplete short right intended for Greg Olsen	13	7
3	10:54	4	11	DEN 26	Graham Gano 44 yard field goal no good	13	7

That's 1st and G without Von; instead, they took one more shot in front of the sticks, then doinked a FG attempt that gave us the ball at our own 34, whence we drove to just outside their 10 before making our own FG. Von preventing the catch by Cotchery (a WR) was the difference between 16-7 and at LEAST 13-10, possibly 13-14.

That's the kind of obscure but pivotal thing that wins ball games: Instead of pulling ahead by a point at the start of the second half, Camolina didn't get the ball again until midway through the 3rd qtr, down two scores. Granted, the kicker had to do his part with a doink, and the NFL MVP his by outright missing his Pro Bowl TE short of the sticks on 3rd down, but that would've been needless if the SB MVP hadn't prevented 1st and G on the previous play.

Originally Posted by Joel

I never said a #1/2 WR, no; I'm talking about this:

3	11:07	2	11	DEN 26	Cam Newton pass incomplete deep right intended for Jerricho Cotchery (defended by Von Miller)	13	7
3	11:00	3	11	DEN 26	Cam Newton pass incomplete short right intended for Greg Olsen	13	7
3	10:54	4	11	DEN 26	Graham Gano 44 yard field goal no good	13	7

That's 1st and G without Von; instead, they took one more shot in front of the sticks, then doinked a FG attempt that gave us the ball at our own 34, whence we drove to just outside their 10 before making our own FG. Von preventing the catch by Cotchery (a WR) was the difference between 16-7 and at LEAST 13-10, possibly 13-14.

That's the kind of obscure but pivotal thing that wins ball games: Instead of pulling ahead by a point at the start of the second half, Camolina didn't get the ball again until midway through the 3rd qtr, down two scores. Granted, the kicker had to do his part with a doink, and the NFL MVP his by outright missing his Pro Bowl TE short of the sticks on 3rd down, but that would've been needless if the SB MVP hadn't prevented 1st and G on the previous play.

As I said before, its possible for an OLB to get matched up against a barely used WR at the end of his career. However, this entire sub-topic start when Carol posted an article objecting to a screen shot showing #1/Pro Bowl WR Brown stiff arming Miller. The point that several of us are making is there is no D play that Phillips would draw up that would have Miller covering Brown.

Originally Posted by FanInAZ

As I said before, its possible for an OLB to get matched up against a barely used WR at the end of his career. However, this entire sub-topic start when Carol posted an article objecting to a screen shot showing #1/Pro Bowl WR Brown stiff arming Miller. The point that several of us are making is there is no D play that Phillips would draw up that would have Miller covering Brown.

Sure, not disputing that. If ANY LB were on a guy like Brown my first question would be "wtf; did Harris, Roby AND Webster get suspended too?!" The point is Von excels at literally ALL defensive roles, so an All Pro WR is about the only kind he'd have no chance of covering. Plus he's SB MVP, and won the postseason by a fair margin—even (especially) when we beat Gronks team (twice.)

This is a really stupid arguement

Originally Posted by Ravage!!!

I think they generally pick players at positions on which they are making changes to in the game.

Either way, I don't think it's EVER been that the Super Bowl MVP is on the cover, has it???

I haven't bought a new Madden in 10 years, though.

Was't Ray Lewis the MVP in the Ravens first Super Bowl win because he was on the cover of Madden following their win?

Originally Posted by Ravage!!!

I think they generally pick players at positions on which they are making changes to in the game.

Either way, I don't think it's EVER been that the Super Bowl MVP is on the cover, has it???

I haven't bought a new Madden in 10 years, though.

All previous covers were chosen by a fan vote. This year EA picked the cover athlete without fan input.

Originally Posted by Joel

No SB MVP. No NFL MVP. No, let's take the guy from the AFCCG loser and posterboy for the NFLs core message that crime always pays. Because character.

What crime did Gronk commit?

Originally Posted by Davii

All previous covers were chosen by a fan vote. This year EA picked the cover athlete without fan input.

They have only been doing the fan vote for like 6 or 7 years. It wasn't something they had always done.

Originally Posted by BroncoWave

They have only been doing the fan vote for like 6 or 7 years. It wasn't something they had always done.

And prior to that Madden himself was on the cover...

Originally Posted by BroncoWave

What crime did Gronk commit?

Being a Patriot