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    Quote Originally Posted by Cugel View Post
    Pretty much the entire history of the NFL says that.

    Elway even said back around 1986 that he wasn't ready to start his rookie year and that putting him in that season hindered his development.

    Normally, this doesn't matter because the team stinks anyway and isn't going anywhere regardless of who is the QB. So, it makes sense to put the rookie in and let him flounder to get some experience - as long as it doesn't hinder his development it's OK if he makes some mistakes.
    The problem is that's almost GUARANTEED to hinder his development, because it makes floundering habitual. You take a guy just learning the NFL ropes, and teach him an NFL QBs job description is "Run for your life behind ZERO protection with NO run support, trying to thread double coverage with desperation bullet passes off your back foot before you go down in a heap." It makes for a few heroic comebacks and a LOT more embarrassing slaughters.

    Do that for a whole season or two and you've got a PERMANENTLY crippled QB, mentally and often physically as well. Remember when RGIII was worth THREE 1st round picks AND a 2nd? Then, y'know, he actually played a full season for a 5-11 team, including a playoff game on a torn ACL and LCL; he's never been the same.

    We're the reigning Champs DESPITE our pass protection and run blocking, not because of it. Let Sanchez take the lumps while Dennison rebuilds a solid line, then put Lynch out there AFTER he's memorized the playbook and can count on CJ/Booker to divert safeties and pass rushers for PA passes as well as a line to protect him.
    Oh, valid point. I thought you meant all starters, you should take the time to be more descriptive, don't be shy. Jaded

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joel View Post
    The problem is that's almost GUARANTEED to hinder his development, because it makes floundering habitual. You take a guy just learning the NFL ropes, and teach him an NFL QBs job description is "Run for your life behind ZERO protection with NO run support, trying to thread double coverage with desperation bullet passes off your back foot before you go down in a heap." It makes for a few heroic comebacks and a LOT more embarrassing slaughters.

    Do that for a whole season or two and you've got a PERMANENTLY crippled QB, mentally and often physically as well. Remember when RGIII was worth THREE 1st round picks AND a 2nd? Then, y'know, he actually played a full season for a 5-11 team, including a playoff game on a torn ACL and LCL; he's never been the same.

    We're the reigning Champs DESPITE our pass protection and run blocking, not because of it. Let Sanchez take the lumps while Dennison rebuilds a solid line, then put Lynch out there AFTER he's memorized the playbook and can count on CJ/Booker to divert safeties and pass rushers for PA passes as well as a line to protect him.
    And you know our line isn't solid now how?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davii View Post
    And you know our line isn't solid now how?
    Because it's never solid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Davii View Post
    And you know our line isn't solid now how?
    I don't, and Dennison makes me cautiously optimistic—but it's been SO bad SO long that most of the league's been publicly calling it out since the middle of 2014. There's a reason we went through TWO QBs last year and Manning had to come back hurt to finish out the season. Now 3/5 starters are effectively new faces (if Sambrailo's RG, he was on the team his rookie year, but only played 3 games, at a different position.) The only guys still starting at the same spot are Garcia and Paradis, both of whom struggled in pass protection last year because any kind of stunt or delayed blitz routinely left them out of position.

    So why not FIND OUT if it's any better before throwing Lynch to the wolves?

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    Because it's never solid.
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    Oh, valid point. I thought you meant all starters, you should take the time to be more descriptive, don't be shy. Jaded

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joel View Post
    I don't, and Dennison makes me cautiously optimistic—but it's been SO bad SO long that most of the league's been publicly calling it out since the middle of 2014. There's a reason we went through TWO QBs last year and Manning had to come back hurt to finish out the season. Now 3/5 starters are effectively new faces (if Sambrailo's RG, he was on the team his rookie year, but only played 3 games, at a different position.) The only guys still starting at the same spot are Garcia and Paradis, both of whom struggled in pass protection last year because any kind of stunt or delayed blitz routinely left them out of position.

    So why not FIND OUT if it's any better before throwing Lynch to the wolves?


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    And you know or believe we're starting Lynch because?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davii View Post
    And you know or believe we're starting Lynch because?
    I don't, and frankly doubt it. But the thread's title IS "Lynch may be ready sooner than you think." In my case, that's any time before (at least) Opening Day 2017.
    Oh, valid point. I thought you meant all starters, you should take the time to be more descriptive, don't be shy. Jaded

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