Thread: Texans owner: Brock Osweiler wanted to get out of Elway and Manning's shadow

BOCA RATON, Fla. -- During his introduction to Houston, Texans quarterback Brock Osweiler said he felt the Texans gave him the best chance to succeed. Today at the NFL owners meetings, Texans owner Bob McNair shed a little more light on what exactly that meant.

In part, it was a chance to create his own legacy, away from the shadow of two of the best quarterbacks ever to play the game.

"I guess the thing that really helped us is that he does like our offense, and Coach [Bill] O'Brien gives the quarterback a little more leeway at the line of scrimmage and all quarterbacks like that," McNair said. "I think that helped. And then of course he had played behind Peyton [Manning] and with [executive vice president of football operations/general manager] John Elway there. Their shadows were quite large. He was still going to be under that and compared to them. He has a chance to be a real hero in Houston. And we’ve got a good ball club so I think all those things entered into it."

McNair said Osweiler's agent told the Texans those factors were important.

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sounds like a weak minded individual with very low self confidence

Originally Posted by weazel

sounds like a weak minded individual with very low self confidence

I agree on the first part, but not the second. After all, he thinks he knows more about NFL QBs than a guy who used to BE one, coached Steve Young and Elway, managed to briefly make Griese, Plummer and Schaub respectable, and even won a playoff game with a 5th round rookie TJ Yates. Because a 5th round pick was all the boss allowed to challenge Schaub, and that went so well NO more QB picks were allowed: Kubiak liked Keenum in the next draft, but had to sign him as an UDFA.

Oh... you meant Oz, didn't you? Yeah... poor dumb SOB....

He got his wish for a place in the sun, and I wish him all the luck he'll need. Houstons offense is in worse shape than ours. We're rebuilding a bad line; they're tearing down a good one. They only have ONE receiving threat (and NO TEs) and are integrating a new starting RB as well as QB. I hope Oz learned a lot from (almost) half a season running for his life in Denver, because his 5 million neighbors have been known to show up at a bad QBs house to pick a fight in front of his kids.

Yes I clicked in the thread and am commenting but am already sick of this story.

"I guess the thing that really helped us is that he does like our offense, and Coach [Bill] O'Brien gives the quarterback a little more leeway at the line of scrimmage and all quarterbacks like that," McNair said.

What that means is that the Texans let Osweiler have more freedom to run the offense. Even Peyton Manning was restricted by the offense. During the SB Manning saw a defensive shift when they were down near the goal line, and called an audible. Kubiak saw that and ran down the sideline frantically calling timeout --- so he could revert to a safe running play into the line. Result - 3 points.

Well, it worked in that they won the SB despite Manning's two turnovers, but NO QB really likes having his hands tied like that. Osweiler liked the Adam Gase offense he was in for 3 years a lot better than the Kubiak offense.

So did Manning of course. Frankly, giving the inexperienced QB the keys to the car and saying OK kid, you drive as fast as you want isn't really a recipe for success. I guess we'll see what he does with that freedom.

But, I'd rather the Broncos QB execute the system the way it's designed rather than try and be his own coach on the field. That's fine for Peyton Manning, but Osweiler is no Peyton Manning. He thinks he is. They are going to learn otherwise when he starts taking big hits and throwing INTs and failing to get the team in the right formation.

It's easy to forget because he's got that huge $72M contract, that he's only started 7 games and there will be some learning curve. But, frankly, there is nobody else in the NFL, not even Tom Brady who really can execute the Peyton Manning offense. There's a reason why he was the best QB in regular season NFL history.

Oh... you meant Oz, didn't you? Yeah... poor dumb SOB....

You really can't call a guy "dumb" for saying "Yes, thank you very much, I do believe I WILL accept $25,000,000 this year!"

That is disappointing.

Echoes of Aaron Rodgers and Favre...not

I agree with Weasel, just sounds like Brock has a confidence issue. I mean i get it, we've seen other QB's play in Denver who got scared when things didnt go their way and used the same excuse as Brock is here. But, you can either be afraid and fold or you can know that you play with an organization with rich history and rise above to make your own mark. At the end of the day i would rather have a guy like Aaron Rodgers who is unafraid to carve his own path rather than a guy tuck tale and go elsewhere because he might be scared of some scrutiny when he struggles. Either way, Brock will find that the grass isnt always greener elsewhere and he shouldnt kid himself that its going to be an easy road in Houston. Every fanbase can come down on their QB when they dont become or show the promise they were believed they were getting. You think Bears fans still think Cutler is their savior? Not likely and i highly doubt Jay still thinks those fans are 10's either. If Brock struggles he can bet his ass that the pressure will be on him to perform and to live up to that contract he was given. If anything, he will have it harder in Houston than he did in Denver because at least with a recent title the Bronco fans will be a little more forgiving compared to an organization that still has yet to bring home a trophy.

Originally Posted by Northman

I agree with Weasel, just sounds like Brock has a confidence issue. I mean i get it, we've seen other QB's play in Denver who got scared when things didnt go their way and used the same excuse as Brock is here. But, you can either be afraid and fold or you can know that you play with an organization with rich history and rise above to make your own mark. At the end of the day i would rather have a guy like Aaron Rodgers who is unafraid to carve his own path rather than a guy tuck tale and go elsewhere because he might be scared of some scrutiny when he struggles. Either way, Brock will find that the grass isnt always greener elsewhere and he shouldnt kid himself that its going to be an easy road in Houston. Every fanbase can come down on their QB when they dont become or show the promise they were believed they were getting. You think Bears fans still think Cutler is their savior? Not likely and i highly doubt Jay still thinks those fans are 10's either. If Brock struggles he can bet his ass that the pressure will be on him to perform and to live up to that contract he was given. If anything, he will have it harder in Houston than he did in Denver because at least with a recent title the Bronco fans will be a little more forgiving compared to an organization that still has yet to bring home a trophy.

Great post - totally agree

More leeway, just what a QB going into his 8th start needs.

Total Faggz.

At the end of the day i would rather have a guy like Aaron Rodgers

I think we would all prefer a QB like Aaron Rogers - in any way like Aaron Rogers. Sadly it doesn't look like the Broncos are going to get another Hall of Fame QB any time soon. Kaepernick is about the best they can hope for this year.

And more likely, our QB will be the butt-fumbler. I'm not saying in advance he can't have any success, but. . . .

I'd call him a Pansy, but that'd be offensive to certain flowers.

Very weak though.

Lets see:
a) Successful organization - CHECK
b) Surrounded by talent - CHECK
c) Defense that takes pressure off offense - CHECK
d) Legacy of winning - CHECK
e) Consecutive losing seasons = Not in the last 4 decades - CHECK

Hey, if Brick is intimidated by any of those or too arrogant to see those or too ignorant to think the Texans have those or to egocentric to think he will bring those to Houston... I wouldn't want him anyway (am still glad he stepped away).

I dunno. Would you rather spend your career being compared with Manning and Elway or being compared with Schaub and David Carr? If he gets them to the playoffs, he can be the Man. If he takes Denver to the playoffs it will always be "yeah but Peyton or John would have done it better".

The Texans do have an excellent defense, not as great as Denver's but not bad. The offense is awful other than D-Hop and that's the big risk for him. He'll get a grace period for a year or two. OTOH, if the offense suddenly clicks, he can bask in the credit.

Bottom line, he took the money just like several other Broncos that now have new addresses. Are they all cowards?